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		By: LP		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2015 17:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2015/04/how-we-will-take-down-public-registries/#comment-26058&quot;&gt;Jaime&lt;/a&gt;.

It already has gotten people killed-more then one.]]></description>
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<p>It already has gotten people killed-more then one.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2015 05:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2015/04/how-we-will-take-down-public-registries/#comment-26064&quot;&gt;Jimmy&lt;/a&gt;.

I applaud your (in)action in refusing to sign the registration but, I&#039;m afraid, symbolism is entirely lost on these people, especially low-level government functionaries.

No, refusal to register is absolutely what is needed. Indeed, it is, perhaps, the only thing that will work, given the solidarity of those refusing to do so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2015/04/how-we-will-take-down-public-registries/#comment-26064">Jimmy</a>.</p>
<p>I applaud your (in)action in refusing to sign the registration but, I&#8217;m afraid, symbolism is entirely lost on these people, especially low-level government functionaries.</p>
<p>No, refusal to register is absolutely what is needed. Indeed, it is, perhaps, the only thing that will work, given the solidarity of those refusing to do so.</p>
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		By: Jimmy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2015 12:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2015/04/how-we-will-take-down-public-registries/#comment-26060&quot;&gt;David&lt;/a&gt;.

Jimmy in not my real name.  I changed it to protect me and my family from the police so I can comment on David&#039;s post.

While I cannot recommend that we registrants stop &quot;registering&quot;, I can give a suggestion that will show resistance, BUT it can only be used by some and not all of us.

The following is not legal advice and should not be considered as such:  

I finished my sentence years ago.  I am not on probation or parole and this is an important point to consider when you read my comment. 

At the bottom of the registration form is an area that is for our signature and a place for a thumb print.

In the police computer, there is a box that can be checked that says &quot;Member refuses to sign&quot;.  I refuse to initial/sign the document or give them my thumb print every time I go to register.  

This is how I protest against the registry.  You have to decide for yourself if this example is right for you.  They (the police) don&#039;t like it when you refuse, but (for me, as I have tested the water), the police can do nothing legally.

&quot;I&quot; look at the registry document as a &quot;business contract&quot;.  I am not legally bound to subject myself to a contract I do not agree with.  However I am bound by the laws set in place i.e. telling them where I live and work etc... I just don&#039;t sign their document which in effect lets them violate my civil rights.

Once again, do not consider this legal advice.  You must decide if this is what you want to do in your state/county.  It is a form of protest.  It slaps SORNA in the face for those of us (who have finished our sentence) and who have been caught up in this ex-post facto law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2015/04/how-we-will-take-down-public-registries/#comment-26060">David</a>.</p>
<p>Jimmy in not my real name.  I changed it to protect me and my family from the police so I can comment on David&#8217;s post.</p>
<p>While I cannot recommend that we registrants stop &#8220;registering&#8221;, I can give a suggestion that will show resistance, BUT it can only be used by some and not all of us.</p>
<p>The following is not legal advice and should not be considered as such:  </p>
<p>I finished my sentence years ago.  I am not on probation or parole and this is an important point to consider when you read my comment. </p>
<p>At the bottom of the registration form is an area that is for our signature and a place for a thumb print.</p>
<p>In the police computer, there is a box that can be checked that says &#8220;Member refuses to sign&#8221;.  I refuse to initial/sign the document or give them my thumb print every time I go to register.  </p>
<p>This is how I protest against the registry.  You have to decide for yourself if this example is right for you.  They (the police) don&#8217;t like it when you refuse, but (for me, as I have tested the water), the police can do nothing legally.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8221; look at the registry document as a &#8220;business contract&#8221;.  I am not legally bound to subject myself to a contract I do not agree with.  However I am bound by the laws set in place i.e. telling them where I live and work etc&#8230; I just don&#8217;t sign their document which in effect lets them violate my civil rights.</p>
<p>Once again, do not consider this legal advice.  You must decide if this is what you want to do in your state/county.  It is a form of protest.  It slaps SORNA in the face for those of us (who have finished our sentence) and who have been caught up in this ex-post facto law.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2015 01:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2015/04/how-we-will-take-down-public-registries/#comment-26061&quot;&gt;Paul&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s not impractical to organize; it&#039;s not BEING organized. It is entirely possible to organize. It would not require all 800K registrants but would require far more than who show up at anything I&#039;ve seen organized on behalf of registry victims so far.

It would require bravery, no doubt about it. But we would have to believe that RSOs are uniquely cowardly to imagine that there are not sufficient of their number to take the requisite actions for such an event because there have always been those, in any of the afore-mentioned struggles, who were willing to put their bodies and their liberties on the line for those socially-defining movements.

I will leave you with the words of Thomas Paine:

&quot;THESE are the times that try men&#039;s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2015/04/how-we-will-take-down-public-registries/#comment-26061">Paul</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not impractical to organize; it&#8217;s not BEING organized. It is entirely possible to organize. It would not require all 800K registrants but would require far more than who show up at anything I&#8217;ve seen organized on behalf of registry victims so far.</p>
<p>It would require bravery, no doubt about it. But we would have to believe that RSOs are uniquely cowardly to imagine that there are not sufficient of their number to take the requisite actions for such an event because there have always been those, in any of the afore-mentioned struggles, who were willing to put their bodies and their liberties on the line for those socially-defining movements.</p>
<p>I will leave you with the words of Thomas Paine:</p>
<p>&#8220;THESE are the times that try men&#8217;s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2015 19:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2015/04/how-we-will-take-down-public-registries/#comment-26056&quot;&gt;Samuel McGrew&lt;/a&gt;.

It is punishment.  The supreme court lied]]></description>
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<p>It is punishment.  The supreme court lied</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2015 19:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2015/04/how-we-will-take-down-public-registries/#comment-26060&quot;&gt;David&lt;/a&gt;.

These points are outstanding.  Imagine what would happen if 800,000 registrants simply refused to register?   Of course there are 2 problems.  It is impractical to organize and if only a small percentage participated, they would be made examples of by the judiciary.   And of course the politicians would use it to reinforce the danger of registrants.  But a massive protest in DC would be excellent.  Also every form of civil disobedience]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2015/04/how-we-will-take-down-public-registries/#comment-26060">David</a>.</p>
<p>These points are outstanding.  Imagine what would happen if 800,000 registrants simply refused to register?   Of course there are 2 problems.  It is impractical to organize and if only a small percentage participated, they would be made examples of by the judiciary.   And of course the politicians would use it to reinforce the danger of registrants.  But a massive protest in DC would be excellent.  Also every form of civil disobedience</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2015 21:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, one thing the newly-accused could do, and I admit it would take considerable courage, is to refuse to plea-bargain with the prosecutors. If we had a movement of refusing to accept plea deals (and not just in sex offenses but in all criminal cases) then the courts would be in very serious trouble. If a substantial number of defendants were to do so then we would quickly see some positive results in terms of over-charging and illegitimately charging individuals.

As for bringing an end to the registration scheme? Another, equally courageous, measure would, if deployed simultaneously by a significant number of people, bring the system to its knees: simply stop registering. A coordinated movement of non-registrants, organized across the U.S., would not only burden the system but bring much-needed attention to the gross injustice of registration. Hold a demonstration in Washington D.C. for an entire week or longer. Get people to go who will then refuse to re-register in D.C., block the steps of the Capital, refuse to comply with police orders to disperse, get arrested.

Who&#039;s going to do that? It doesn&#039;t look very encouraging, does it? But I will say this: unless we START doing these things, I don&#039;t see any incentive on the part of our oppressors to change the way we are treated. That&#039;s the way it has always been, from civil rights to Vietnam war protests. Those are the only things which got results. And by results, I mean the abolition of the registration laws, not little tweaks that appease the least offensive of registrants over decades of time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, one thing the newly-accused could do, and I admit it would take considerable courage, is to refuse to plea-bargain with the prosecutors. If we had a movement of refusing to accept plea deals (and not just in sex offenses but in all criminal cases) then the courts would be in very serious trouble. If a substantial number of defendants were to do so then we would quickly see some positive results in terms of over-charging and illegitimately charging individuals.</p>
<p>As for bringing an end to the registration scheme? Another, equally courageous, measure would, if deployed simultaneously by a significant number of people, bring the system to its knees: simply stop registering. A coordinated movement of non-registrants, organized across the U.S., would not only burden the system but bring much-needed attention to the gross injustice of registration. Hold a demonstration in Washington D.C. for an entire week or longer. Get people to go who will then refuse to re-register in D.C., block the steps of the Capital, refuse to comply with police orders to disperse, get arrested.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s going to do that? It doesn&#8217;t look very encouraging, does it? But I will say this: unless we START doing these things, I don&#8217;t see any incentive on the part of our oppressors to change the way we are treated. That&#8217;s the way it has always been, from civil rights to Vietnam war protests. Those are the only things which got results. And by results, I mean the abolition of the registration laws, not little tweaks that appease the least offensive of registrants over decades of time.</p>
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		By: rwvnral		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rwvnral]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2015 03:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2015/04/how-we-will-take-down-public-registries/#comment-26058&quot;&gt;Jaime&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank for your comment.  There have already been several vigilante-style murders related to the registries, and in at least once case, the murder of a registrant&#039;s innocent spouse.  -Admin]]></description>
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<p>Thank for your comment.  There have already been several vigilante-style murders related to the registries, and in at least once case, the murder of a registrant&#8217;s innocent spouse.  -Admin</p>
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		By: Jaime		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jaime]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2015 19:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All the S.O.R Is doing is putting targets on people&#039;s backs. It&#039;s going to get someone seriously injured or killed!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the S.O.R Is doing is putting targets on people&#8217;s backs. It&#8217;s going to get someone seriously injured or killed!</p>
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		By: Debbie bos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie bos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2015/04/how-we-will-take-down-public-registries/#comment-26055&quot;&gt;Martin&lt;/a&gt;.

Well said!!!]]></description>
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<p>Well said!!!</p>
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