I don’t live in NY, so when I hear the word “supervised release” to me that means “probation”.

I’ve replied to you before as to why I (and I assume many others) refuse to fight parole and probation. Parole and probation are PUNISHMENTS in lieu of prison or jail. It is not supposed to be pleasant. Parole and probation are designed to give a little more freedom than incarceration, but the fact remains that you are not considered free yet. They are not really designed with reintegration in mind other than a small caveat: They provide strict rules of life for a specific time period and the expectation is that if you can survive under that punishment, then you can handle full freedom. Every major crime has people who go under massive restrictions pertaining to probation and parole if and when they are released. All constitutional laws are followed when it comes to this form of punishment as well, so it’s not a fight most of us want to fight. The fact that you are able to post online means your restrictions are less than most states. I was not allowed to access the internet at all unless I was at the unemployment office and then only to search for jobs. Posting online would have been a violation. The rest of us are fighting for rights to be restored to people who have finished their sentences. A person on probation or parole has not finished their sentence.

Lol, I don’t need an attorney to tell me anything about the law, i’m extremely knowledgeable in that regard. Look it up for yourself, nys penal law, supervised release is a part of the sentence automatically for certain offenses. Probation is not supervised release in nys. Sure I knew you can turn down probation long ago.

My point in talking about supervised release was simple. If you get it after being released from prison to see how well you can reintegrate, and you are successful, whats the purpose of a sora that is essentially the same thing, just as is probation the same as supervised release.

I don’t care if someone wants to turn down probation and do the time, usually they violate and do the time anyways. In that regard I agree with you. You said supervised release is unnecessary, not only that it’s a second punishment or term of slavery. But in some states you get it whether you want it or not.

Not sure where you come up with this imaginary idea that I have a problem with your posts and that I’m trying to argue with you. I’m simply voicing my opinion about probation.
And yes, you certainly can plea away probation by saying “Gimme the whole 10 yrs”. But they know that no one wants that. Being set free in 2 or 3 yrs seems VERY tempting.
I’m sure there are informations your attorney or public defender isn’t telling you.

And there’s a prime example as to why probation needs to be dismantled. They will violate you over not being able to pay!!!?? Luckily, in CT the courts wave probation fees. But what type of “recidivism” is it to be violated for being broke!? How do defense/rights attorneys just sit back and let this go on?
Not to mention that IF and WHEN you’re lucky enough to find work, you need to take time off (working a 9 to 5) to go see a PO once a week or so. It’s not productive!

Well there is a reality in this life, sorry this isnt a fairy tale. People are as narrow minded as ever, thinking that old outdated values still work. Well they dont. Terms like law and order, 1950s style thinking, lock everybody up mentality.

“At least you’re not in prison or dead”

^You’re beginning to sound like them now.

There is no constitutional basis for forgiveness. Toleration is all there is. But we have a lawful contract that says, “Slavery nor indentured servitude shall exist in the US except as a punishment for a crime duly convicted of”. A sora is both slavery and indentured servitude that is forced upon a person. It is also state sponsored terrorism. It yells fire when no fire is present. But essentially it is the governments way of reducing their liability, they were sick of lawsuits.

How long do we go on, forever. There is no law against ignorance, hatred, anger, etc. With all sincerity I would hate a person who did serious harm to my family, even though I understand the causes, but I would not blame a whole class of persons whose acts are related in some way.

Yea, im afraid to tell you your old life is over, but dont feel that bad, its over for millions of people in this country. Just think, you now have a chance to do all the things your other life made impossible. But your ability to associate with others is now substantially reduced. And now you will find out who really cares about you.

Time and money will eventually end this nonsense one way or another. Its been a huge failure, but it wont change much for us. We will still be near the bottom of the barrel in terms of association.

I wish I could tell you more positive things, but only you know the reality you live in. With or without a sora life will be different, only you can make life bearable. Good luck to you, at least you’re not in prison or dead.

True. And I think if we were to go to a law-enforcement registry that would make it easier for politicians to take the step to get rid of the registry altogether. Removing public notification takes the legs out from under one of the main arguments made by registry proponents. And what is the point of having a formal registry when authorities know already who is causing problems and who they need to keep an eye on. Having a registry clogged with a bunch of people who are not causing trouble and are just trying to live their lives seems like it would be more trouble than it’s worth for everyone concerned, including law enforcement.