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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2016 19:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I looked at underage pictures, therefore I am on the registry, even though there is not a shred of evidence to be found that I have ever molested a child, or ever will. I was tested thoroughly at a highly accredited place, and found to have a 4% chance of recidivism, and this is just for looking at pictures again, which I never will. No matter. I am on 20 years probation, even though I have never been in trouble with the law in any manner, and got indicted when I was 55. I am also court ordered to attend therapy every week at my expense, and there is no &quot;finish line&quot; to this. You go until they say you are healed, whatever that means. If you tell them you have no interest, you are labeled as being in denial, and you have it even worse. I am not unsympathetic to problems, but to be put through all of this for a one time mistake seems very harsh to me. Even those in therapy with me that actually molested someone have been in there for years. I asked the therapist, is no one allowed to make a mistake? I could see if someone re-offends. That is a sign of a problem, but a one time deal and you are forever a sex offender? Insanity. It&#039;s bad enough being an ex-felon without having this hanging over my head. It makes finding a job nearly impossible. Even if I pass a companies standards, my PO has to give me permission to do the job, and they are beyond strict, as are the therapist. I had one tell me if I were eating dinner out and a family sat down next to me that I was to immediately get up and leave. I seriously asked if she had lost her mind, and was kicked out of therapy. I have never in my life seen anything like this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked at underage pictures, therefore I am on the registry, even though there is not a shred of evidence to be found that I have ever molested a child, or ever will. I was tested thoroughly at a highly accredited place, and found to have a 4% chance of recidivism, and this is just for looking at pictures again, which I never will. No matter. I am on 20 years probation, even though I have never been in trouble with the law in any manner, and got indicted when I was 55. I am also court ordered to attend therapy every week at my expense, and there is no &#8220;finish line&#8221; to this. You go until they say you are healed, whatever that means. If you tell them you have no interest, you are labeled as being in denial, and you have it even worse. I am not unsympathetic to problems, but to be put through all of this for a one time mistake seems very harsh to me. Even those in therapy with me that actually molested someone have been in there for years. I asked the therapist, is no one allowed to make a mistake? I could see if someone re-offends. That is a sign of a problem, but a one time deal and you are forever a sex offender? Insanity. It&#8217;s bad enough being an ex-felon without having this hanging over my head. It makes finding a job nearly impossible. Even if I pass a companies standards, my PO has to give me permission to do the job, and they are beyond strict, as are the therapist. I had one tell me if I were eating dinner out and a family sat down next to me that I was to immediately get up and leave. I seriously asked if she had lost her mind, and was kicked out of therapy. I have never in my life seen anything like this.</p>
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		By: Michelle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2016 21:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25594&quot;&gt;Jerry&lt;/a&gt;.

I was a victim of rape at the age of 10 unwilling yet never reported it. Now as an adult I am married to someone who has been convicted of 2nd degree rape because of dating someone to young with parental consent. Something that he, I and our children have to live with, because of a mistake. I think he along with other have done their time for the crime. Also yes I don&#039;t think that the public should have their information because that leads the harassing and judgment. The laws need to be changed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25594">Jerry</a>.</p>
<p>I was a victim of rape at the age of 10 unwilling yet never reported it. Now as an adult I am married to someone who has been convicted of 2nd degree rape because of dating someone to young with parental consent. Something that he, I and our children have to live with, because of a mistake. I think he along with other have done their time for the crime. Also yes I don&#8217;t think that the public should have their information because that leads the harassing and judgment. The laws need to be changed.</p>
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		By: NH Registrant		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NH Registrant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2016 16:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25587&quot;&gt;Fred&lt;/a&gt;.

You couldn&#039;t be more right, Fred! It IS all about the money! If there was no money in Sex Offender Hysteria, then it wouldn&#039;t exist. 

The Registry ONLY exists to make money and political brownie points. It&#039;s exploitative of the accused and their families. But, as long as that money keeps flowing and the public is ignorant, the states don&#039;t give one flying you-know-what.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25587">Fred</a>.</p>
<p>You couldn&#8217;t be more right, Fred! It IS all about the money! If there was no money in Sex Offender Hysteria, then it wouldn&#8217;t exist. </p>
<p>The Registry ONLY exists to make money and political brownie points. It&#8217;s exploitative of the accused and their families. But, as long as that money keeps flowing and the public is ignorant, the states don&#8217;t give one flying you-know-what.</p>
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		By: Research it thoroughly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Research it thoroughly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25597&quot;&gt;Bill&lt;/a&gt;.

Do your research....sounds like a phishing expedition if not from a legitimate source.  What is the source, e.g. law firm, etc?  If a real thing, sounds interesting to follow through, but dig into it first.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25597">Bill</a>.</p>
<p>Do your research&#8230;.sounds like a phishing expedition if not from a legitimate source.  What is the source, e.g. law firm, etc?  If a real thing, sounds interesting to follow through, but dig into it first.</p>
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		By: Fred		</title>
		<link>https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25598</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2016 03:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25597&quot;&gt;Bill&lt;/a&gt;.

Definitely a scam.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25597">Bill</a>.</p>
<p>Definitely a scam.</p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
		<link>https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25597</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has anyone else received a letter in the mail saying this:
By the 8/25/2016 decision of the United States Court of Appeals in Does v Snyder, Nos. 15-1536/2346/ 2486, you must act quickly to obtain a local court order to be removed from the sex offender registry BEFORE the Sex Offender Registration Act is amended to keep you as a second-class citizen forever.
You must provide an email address where your legal documents, forms, and instructions can be sent. It does not need to be your email address
We cannot guarantee that you will not draw a biased county judge who denies your rights. However, if that happens, we will be here to help you proceed. It is our goal to have all Tier III offenders convicted in Michigan before 2006 removed from the registry. Once the Legislature amends the law all bets are off. By typing in your name and email address, then clicking “Buy Now,” you acknowledge that you have read this disclaimer and agree to proceed at your own risk.
It’s $34.95. They send you official Michigan court documents to your email address. What does everyone think?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone else received a letter in the mail saying this:<br />
By the 8/25/2016 decision of the United States Court of Appeals in Does v Snyder, Nos. 15-1536/2346/ 2486, you must act quickly to obtain a local court order to be removed from the sex offender registry BEFORE the Sex Offender Registration Act is amended to keep you as a second-class citizen forever.<br />
You must provide an email address where your legal documents, forms, and instructions can be sent. It does not need to be your email address<br />
We cannot guarantee that you will not draw a biased county judge who denies your rights. However, if that happens, we will be here to help you proceed. It is our goal to have all Tier III offenders convicted in Michigan before 2006 removed from the registry. Once the Legislature amends the law all bets are off. By typing in your name and email address, then clicking “Buy Now,” you acknowledge that you have read this disclaimer and agree to proceed at your own risk.<br />
It’s $34.95. They send you official Michigan court documents to your email address. What does everyone think?</p>
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		By: Fred		</title>
		<link>https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25596</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 10:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25595&quot;&gt;Raj&lt;/a&gt;.

It is really not party related.  Yes democrats happened to be in the white house when highly public cases were out   These laws pass virtually un-oppossed on both sides of the aisle.  In my state Republicans are behind the tougher SO legislations and they pass un-oppessed. It is the courts who will make a difference, not the lawmakers.  

If we start talking about politics in terms of who is better for our cause, we are going to start turning on each other and that will be very destructive.  I am very political too and in any other forum I would gladly debate, but in here we are united and I hope we can stay that way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25595">Raj</a>.</p>
<p>It is really not party related.  Yes democrats happened to be in the white house when highly public cases were out   These laws pass virtually un-oppossed on both sides of the aisle.  In my state Republicans are behind the tougher SO legislations and they pass un-oppessed. It is the courts who will make a difference, not the lawmakers.  </p>
<p>If we start talking about politics in terms of who is better for our cause, we are going to start turning on each other and that will be very destructive.  I am very political too and in any other forum I would gladly debate, but in here we are united and I hope we can stay that way.</p>
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		By: Raj		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 03:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25592&quot;&gt;Fred&lt;/a&gt;.

You are right that&#039;s politics. However, I see major sex offender laws being passed in the liberal/democrat run terms, like Megan law in Bill Clinton&#039;s term and International Megan law in Obama&#039;s term, which is kinda ironic. 
Now Hillary Clinton, who once termed black men as Super Predators who need to be brought to their heels, is seeking the office. I don&#039;t mean Donald Trump is ideal, but it seems life under Clinton will be the same continuation of Status-quo and more of the globalist agenda in the US. But sadly, the Constitution of this country is something politicians like to speak of but not truly follow when it comes to new policies and laws.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25592">Fred</a>.</p>
<p>You are right that&#8217;s politics. However, I see major sex offender laws being passed in the liberal/democrat run terms, like Megan law in Bill Clinton&#8217;s term and International Megan law in Obama&#8217;s term, which is kinda ironic.<br />
Now Hillary Clinton, who once termed black men as Super Predators who need to be brought to their heels, is seeking the office. I don&#8217;t mean Donald Trump is ideal, but it seems life under Clinton will be the same continuation of Status-quo and more of the globalist agenda in the US. But sadly, the Constitution of this country is something politicians like to speak of but not truly follow when it comes to new policies and laws.</p>
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		By: Jerry		</title>
		<link>https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25594</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2016 21:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25590&quot;&gt;James Townsend&lt;/a&gt;.

One of the problems with government is the lack of term limits for representatives and senators at the federal and state level. These legislators get in and then do the work of the wealthy who funded and keep funding their campaigns instead of doing the work for the betterment of their constituency. Then every once in a while when they attempt to do something for the betterment of society as a whole, they respond with knee-jerk reactions to media hyperbole about the latest demon in society.  Back in the late 1980s and early 1990s it was the sex offender. But today, who really is a sex offender?

I know I will probably take a lot of heat for this, but the original idea of placing persons on a registry that actually served a jail or prison sentence for sexual assault or rape was a good idea.  The problem was making the registry public.  In other countries that have sex offender registries, only law enforcement has access to the information.  For crimes of sexual assault and rape, I don&#039;t see a problem with only law enforcement having a data base of such offenders. However, the public shaming and humiliation for these type of offenders goes beyond reason.  If we really want these types of offenders to get help while serving their sentences, then we need to give them a fair chance to prove remorse and go on with their life. We aren&#039;t going to get that with a public sex offender registry and employers who will not hire these ex-offenders at a living wage and at a job that has nothing to do with the possibility of re-offending.  It is ridiculous. Then after a &quot;reasonable&quot; time, remove them from the police registry. EVERYONE deserves a second chance.  With these crimes, I do not think if it were a family member of mine that I&#039;d be in favor of a third chance.

I make no apology for finding crimes of public urination, streaking, arbitrary Romeo &#038; Juliette laws (which today would have listed our grandfathers and great grandfathers and many politicians in their days on such a sex offender registry), police stings where there is no real victim, and downloading subjective definitions of child pornography that are inconsistent depending on the state being eligible for listing on any sex offender registry, public or law enforcement eyes only. This isn&#039;t reasonable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25590">James Townsend</a>.</p>
<p>One of the problems with government is the lack of term limits for representatives and senators at the federal and state level. These legislators get in and then do the work of the wealthy who funded and keep funding their campaigns instead of doing the work for the betterment of their constituency. Then every once in a while when they attempt to do something for the betterment of society as a whole, they respond with knee-jerk reactions to media hyperbole about the latest demon in society.  Back in the late 1980s and early 1990s it was the sex offender. But today, who really is a sex offender?</p>
<p>I know I will probably take a lot of heat for this, but the original idea of placing persons on a registry that actually served a jail or prison sentence for sexual assault or rape was a good idea.  The problem was making the registry public.  In other countries that have sex offender registries, only law enforcement has access to the information.  For crimes of sexual assault and rape, I don&#8217;t see a problem with only law enforcement having a data base of such offenders. However, the public shaming and humiliation for these type of offenders goes beyond reason.  If we really want these types of offenders to get help while serving their sentences, then we need to give them a fair chance to prove remorse and go on with their life. We aren&#8217;t going to get that with a public sex offender registry and employers who will not hire these ex-offenders at a living wage and at a job that has nothing to do with the possibility of re-offending.  It is ridiculous. Then after a &#8220;reasonable&#8221; time, remove them from the police registry. EVERYONE deserves a second chance.  With these crimes, I do not think if it were a family member of mine that I&#8217;d be in favor of a third chance.</p>
<p>I make no apology for finding crimes of public urination, streaking, arbitrary Romeo &amp; Juliette laws (which today would have listed our grandfathers and great grandfathers and many politicians in their days on such a sex offender registry), police stings where there is no real victim, and downloading subjective definitions of child pornography that are inconsistent depending on the state being eligible for listing on any sex offender registry, public or law enforcement eyes only. This isn&#8217;t reasonable.</p>
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		By: Fred		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2016 20:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25591&quot;&gt;Raj&lt;/a&gt;.

But yes, I agree with your assessment.  Those with privilege seem to escape accountability far more often than the rest of us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2016/10/registries-cost-millions-provide-no-additional-safety/#comment-25591">Raj</a>.</p>
<p>But yes, I agree with your assessment.  Those with privilege seem to escape accountability far more often than the rest of us.</p>
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