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		By: Lila		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2017 02:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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We have a winter storm moving in tomorrow night, with snowfall and temperatures in the teens throughout the weekend.]]></description>
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		By: sandy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sandy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2016 12:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NEW UPDATE: Lila is in touch with the South Carolina registry coordinator and has sent him a copy of the doctor&#039;s report.

ALSO....a journalist with a major newspaper is interested in the story; he is doing interviews and gathering information. He hopes to write a story; we will have a link here when it is written and released.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NEW UPDATE: Lila is in touch with the South Carolina registry coordinator and has sent him a copy of the doctor&#8217;s report.</p>
<p>ALSO&#8230;.a journalist with a major newspaper is interested in the story; he is doing interviews and gathering information. He hopes to write a story; we will have a link here when it is written and released.</p>
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		By: Adam Seabolt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Seabolt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 22:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2016/12/new-updates-in-the-rain-in-the-cold-tent-in-woods-still-stands/#comment-25834&quot;&gt;Maestro&lt;/a&gt;.

This is ridiculous behaviour.I read these comments and feel the anger.I too am on paper for 10 years. I have done 121 months in Federal Prison.I made the choice to give up basic rights and freedoms when I committed my crime that I might add was against children,as did all of you.Your anger should not be against others ,ex.Treatment providers,Parole Officers but yourselves.What did you think would happen by deciding to commit what ever offense got you in this current position.People will do one thing if nothing else and that is protect their children.This is a hot button issue right now and through these treatment based programs studies are being made.Untill these studies are in, this is the way of it.These laws are in place to protect society and it&#039;s children.Some challenges have been made on a judicial level and battles have been won.Your anger and irrational rhetoric serves no purpose.Sexual offending against minors will never be tolerated.Wether we like it or not some do and forever will deem us monsters.You can only make the change as to how society views you on a personal level.by the way you act.So start by growing up and face the anger that comes from shame within yourselves.This is only your fault and your past behavior got you here.Seek treatment not to be cured there isn&#039;t one.Seek treatment to become a better member of society.This is all they want.Reasurance that you are striving for wellness. You cannot find it through irrational beliefs.Moral inventory Is the beginning.Try it, be honest with yourself and the reality of your situation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2016/12/new-updates-in-the-rain-in-the-cold-tent-in-woods-still-stands/#comment-25834">Maestro</a>.</p>
<p>This is ridiculous behaviour.I read these comments and feel the anger.I too am on paper for 10 years. I have done 121 months in Federal Prison.I made the choice to give up basic rights and freedoms when I committed my crime that I might add was against children,as did all of you.Your anger should not be against others ,ex.Treatment providers,Parole Officers but yourselves.What did you think would happen by deciding to commit what ever offense got you in this current position.People will do one thing if nothing else and that is protect their children.This is a hot button issue right now and through these treatment based programs studies are being made.Untill these studies are in, this is the way of it.These laws are in place to protect society and it&#8217;s children.Some challenges have been made on a judicial level and battles have been won.Your anger and irrational rhetoric serves no purpose.Sexual offending against minors will never be tolerated.Wether we like it or not some do and forever will deem us monsters.You can only make the change as to how society views you on a personal level.by the way you act.So start by growing up and face the anger that comes from shame within yourselves.This is only your fault and your past behavior got you here.Seek treatment not to be cured there isn&#8217;t one.Seek treatment to become a better member of society.This is all they want.Reasurance that you are striving for wellness. You cannot find it through irrational beliefs.Moral inventory Is the beginning.Try it, be honest with yourself and the reality of your situation.</p>
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		By: Dave D		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 16:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2016/12/new-updates-in-the-rain-in-the-cold-tent-in-woods-still-stands/#comment-25838&quot;&gt;James Townsend&lt;/a&gt;.

They are afraid of the Bible because the Bible does not have an age of consent. Most of the countries laws were based on the Bible the sex offence laws are not. They need you to be guilty just to make themselves feel better about violating your rights. The Bible does not help their case at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2016/12/new-updates-in-the-rain-in-the-cold-tent-in-woods-still-stands/#comment-25838">James Townsend</a>.</p>
<p>They are afraid of the Bible because the Bible does not have an age of consent. Most of the countries laws were based on the Bible the sex offence laws are not. They need you to be guilty just to make themselves feel better about violating your rights. The Bible does not help their case at all.</p>
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		By: Erika		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erika]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2016 16:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2016/12/new-updates-in-the-rain-in-the-cold-tent-in-woods-still-stands/#comment-25841&quot;&gt;Peter&lt;/a&gt;.

“[W]hen everything is classified, then nothing is classified and the system becomes one to be disregarded by the cynical or careless.” - New York Times Company v. United States, 403 U.S. 713, 729 91971) (Stewart, J., concurring)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2016/12/new-updates-in-the-rain-in-the-cold-tent-in-woods-still-stands/#comment-25841">Peter</a>.</p>
<p>“[W]hen everything is classified, then nothing is classified and the system becomes one to be disregarded by the cynical or careless.” &#8211; New York Times Company v. United States, 403 U.S. 713, 729 91971) (Stewart, J., concurring)</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2016 15:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I live in North Carolina and we have a population of 10,000,000 and of those 10,000,000 there are 21,704 registered sex offenders which leaves us with 9,978,296 people. Of those i wonder how many sex offenders there are. There are probably ten times as many that they don&#039;t know about. Now the registry might be protecting kids from us, but really all it&#039;s doing is enabling unregistered sex offenders to go and do what we can&#039;t and go where we can&#039;t go. So the registry is not really protecting anybody. i think it&#039;s that way all over the united states. I hope steve and lila are O.K and that he can get out of those woods.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in North Carolina and we have a population of 10,000,000 and of those 10,000,000 there are 21,704 registered sex offenders which leaves us with 9,978,296 people. Of those i wonder how many sex offenders there are. There are probably ten times as many that they don&#8217;t know about. Now the registry might be protecting kids from us, but really all it&#8217;s doing is enabling unregistered sex offenders to go and do what we can&#8217;t and go where we can&#8217;t go. So the registry is not really protecting anybody. i think it&#8217;s that way all over the united states. I hope steve and lila are O.K and that he can get out of those woods.</p>
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		By: Erika		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erika]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2016/12/new-updates-in-the-rain-in-the-cold-tent-in-woods-still-stands/#comment-25839&quot;&gt;sandy&lt;/a&gt;.

Something just hit me from out of the blue, maybe you could sift pasta (holes in argument) with it but here it goes:

My supposition is this:

All the legislative &quot;intent&quot; behind these laws are predicated on certain factors that contains similar language or reasoning nationally that give creedance to why it should exist?

You see terms such as this[*] (see below)

My proposed question is this &#039;COMPARED TO WHAT SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION?&#039;

This a very important question!

There is the general run of the mill vanilla argument of the BJS 3% recidivism base rate that will not ever change (what I was told by 3 expert staticians) WITH or WITHOUT a registry. That means 95% DO NOT REOFFEND SEXUALLY, leaving 5% that will; but who in that 5% will re-offend sexually? Any increase, decrease or fluctuation of this base rate sample (that&#039;s all you need) would be due to the number of states included in the study, severe population increase or decrease however it would be slight. You only need a 10 or 7 year sample.

Then there is the comparison for lowest recidivism rate besides murder for recidivism after a completing a prison sentence for any other kind of offender OR CRIME etc...

That granted!

Now back to &quot;segmenting&quot; and creating laws around that &quot;segment&quot; because that &quot;segment&quot; is less worthy of &quot;civil rights&quot; because they are &quot;at risk&quot; prone to do this or that because this says that or because I (we) just think this or that absent any hard cross-validated proof for invoking and enacting draconian measures etc...

Most lawmakers do not even understand what is really going on they just vote to vote because everybody else is voting that way and lunch time is around the corner and who has time to really investigate and besides because they were told it is a &quot;bi partisan&quot; issue and &quot;non-controversial public matter&quot; they just vote etc...

Now time for the BIGGER QUESTION what is the RISK of the entire population of any given state to OFFEND SEXUALLY compared to what? (a one time sex offender?)

Now with that in mind where is the claim that &quot;PUBLIC SAFETY,&quot; is being &quot;served&quot; and that it &quot;offers&quot; &quot;PROTECTION&quot; and is that even possible? Remember for any &quot;threat to public safety&quot; to be &quot;valid&quot; it must be an &quot;actual threat&quot; not an &quot;imagined threat.&quot; This would overide any constitutionally protected rights according to the intent of the constitution.

How many sex crimes (are one time sex offenders to blame?) occur within the state or within the boundaries of any given territories population base?

WHAT WOULD QUANTITATIVE RESEARCH SAY ABOUT THIS:

1.) Is there really a threat (more of a threat, less of a threat) compared to the population base?

2.) Can it be prevented?

3.) Who is to blame? (95% blamed for the behaviors 5% hmmm? That warrants probation like reporting requirements and restrictions? (Not arguing the point of the ability to have a registry archive!)

5.) Is causing more violent or mortality related sex crimes to happen?

6.) Is it increasing types of sexual recidivism?

7.)___________{fill in the blanks}___________.




[*]Glossary of Terms:

&quot;threat&quot;

&quot;safety&quot;

&quot;analysis&quot;

&quot;actuarial&quot;

&quot;static&quot;

&quot;dynamic&quot;

&quot;assessment&quot;

&quot;pose&quot;

&quot;risk&quot;

&quot;significant risk&quot;

&quot;protection&quot;

&quot;health&quot;

&quot;dangerous (ness)&quot;

&quot;finds&quot;

&quot;findings&quot;

&quot;public&quot;

&quot;self&quot;

&quot;sex&quot;

&quot;offender(s)&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2016/12/new-updates-in-the-rain-in-the-cold-tent-in-woods-still-stands/#comment-25839">sandy</a>.</p>
<p>Something just hit me from out of the blue, maybe you could sift pasta (holes in argument) with it but here it goes:</p>
<p>My supposition is this:</p>
<p>All the legislative &#8220;intent&#8221; behind these laws are predicated on certain factors that contains similar language or reasoning nationally that give creedance to why it should exist?</p>
<p>You see terms such as this[*] (see below)</p>
<p>My proposed question is this &#8216;COMPARED TO WHAT SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION?&#8217;</p>
<p>This a very important question!</p>
<p>There is the general run of the mill vanilla argument of the BJS 3% recidivism base rate that will not ever change (what I was told by 3 expert staticians) WITH or WITHOUT a registry. That means 95% DO NOT REOFFEND SEXUALLY, leaving 5% that will; but who in that 5% will re-offend sexually? Any increase, decrease or fluctuation of this base rate sample (that&#8217;s all you need) would be due to the number of states included in the study, severe population increase or decrease however it would be slight. You only need a 10 or 7 year sample.</p>
<p>Then there is the comparison for lowest recidivism rate besides murder for recidivism after a completing a prison sentence for any other kind of offender OR CRIME etc&#8230;</p>
<p>That granted!</p>
<p>Now back to &#8220;segmenting&#8221; and creating laws around that &#8220;segment&#8221; because that &#8220;segment&#8221; is less worthy of &#8220;civil rights&#8221; because they are &#8220;at risk&#8221; prone to do this or that because this says that or because I (we) just think this or that absent any hard cross-validated proof for invoking and enacting draconian measures etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Most lawmakers do not even understand what is really going on they just vote to vote because everybody else is voting that way and lunch time is around the corner and who has time to really investigate and besides because they were told it is a &#8220;bi partisan&#8221; issue and &#8220;non-controversial public matter&#8221; they just vote etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Now time for the BIGGER QUESTION what is the RISK of the entire population of any given state to OFFEND SEXUALLY compared to what? (a one time sex offender?)</p>
<p>Now with that in mind where is the claim that &#8220;PUBLIC SAFETY,&#8221; is being &#8220;served&#8221; and that it &#8220;offers&#8221; &#8220;PROTECTION&#8221; and is that even possible? Remember for any &#8220;threat to public safety&#8221; to be &#8220;valid&#8221; it must be an &#8220;actual threat&#8221; not an &#8220;imagined threat.&#8221; This would overide any constitutionally protected rights according to the intent of the constitution.</p>
<p>How many sex crimes (are one time sex offenders to blame?) occur within the state or within the boundaries of any given territories population base?</p>
<p>WHAT WOULD QUANTITATIVE RESEARCH SAY ABOUT THIS:</p>
<p>1.) Is there really a threat (more of a threat, less of a threat) compared to the population base?</p>
<p>2.) Can it be prevented?</p>
<p>3.) Who is to blame? (95% blamed for the behaviors 5% hmmm? That warrants probation like reporting requirements and restrictions? (Not arguing the point of the ability to have a registry archive!)</p>
<p>5.) Is causing more violent or mortality related sex crimes to happen?</p>
<p>6.) Is it increasing types of sexual recidivism?</p>
<p>7.)___________{fill in the blanks}___________.</p>
<p>[*]Glossary of Terms:</p>
<p>&#8220;threat&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;safety&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;analysis&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;actuarial&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;static&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;dynamic&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;assessment&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;pose&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;risk&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;significant risk&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;protection&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;health&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;dangerous (ness)&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;finds&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;findings&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;public&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;self&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;sex&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;offender(s)&#8221;</p>
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		By: sandy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sandy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[UPDATE: Lila has spoken with someone in charge at the state level of registry management and awaits a response from him. She also has in hand the statement from the doctor that makes it clear exactly what Steve&#039;s medical needs are for the oxygen and nebulizer treatments. If nothing else, this should at least show the local office the risks that are being taken by keeping Steve from his treatments.

And the temperature has been in the 20s at night, and rain comes and goes.

Lila&#039;s faith is strong; if you are so inclined, she asks you say a prayer for them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE: Lila has spoken with someone in charge at the state level of registry management and awaits a response from him. She also has in hand the statement from the doctor that makes it clear exactly what Steve&#8217;s medical needs are for the oxygen and nebulizer treatments. If nothing else, this should at least show the local office the risks that are being taken by keeping Steve from his treatments.</p>
<p>And the temperature has been in the 20s at night, and rain comes and goes.</p>
<p>Lila&#8217;s faith is strong; if you are so inclined, she asks you say a prayer for them.</p>
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		By: James Townsend		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Townsend]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2016 04:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Believe it or not going back to court is what I wanted to do from the get go and my PO knows I wanted to. I even told my PO why I came down there to meet this person and he just held his tongue. Only one word I said to him.. &quot;to prove&quot;.

See they wanted me to come to the house. I might be blind but I&#039;m not stupid&quot;. A lot of you all on here have some hellish probation to deal with in your states. I think I went to these sex offender classes for about three or four weeks and than they let me go because I was talking in a Christian way that they couldn&#039;t challenge.

Heck one day I brought my bible to my PO&quot;s office and the next meeting he told me not to bring it again. I think they are all scared of Christianity even thou they say they are Christian&#039;s...and they do all this stuff .... hey we all have had the wool pulled over us..... remember we are not teenagers.

I&#039;m going to be driving down to try and meet JP as he can help I&#039;m sure along with my lawyer in this hurtle I am going thru and that others in other states are going thru and believe it or not I&#039;m writing letters to Trump at the Trump Hotel. They might get read they may not but the general public needs to know about all this mess as it is unconstitutional.........and yes the Ten commandments are still alive and basic religion is still in the constitution...its how one understands the constitution and George Washington knew his maker..... or did he actually chop down that cherry tree.  
And we should all look for a better new year.
                                                                                                       Happy Holidays]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not going back to court is what I wanted to do from the get go and my PO knows I wanted to. I even told my PO why I came down there to meet this person and he just held his tongue. Only one word I said to him.. &#8220;to prove&#8221;.</p>
<p>See they wanted me to come to the house. I might be blind but I&#8217;m not stupid&#8221;. A lot of you all on here have some hellish probation to deal with in your states. I think I went to these sex offender classes for about three or four weeks and than they let me go because I was talking in a Christian way that they couldn&#8217;t challenge.</p>
<p>Heck one day I brought my bible to my PO&#8221;s office and the next meeting he told me not to bring it again. I think they are all scared of Christianity even thou they say they are Christian&#8217;s&#8230;and they do all this stuff &#8230;. hey we all have had the wool pulled over us&#8230;.. remember we are not teenagers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to be driving down to try and meet JP as he can help I&#8217;m sure along with my lawyer in this hurtle I am going thru and that others in other states are going thru and believe it or not I&#8217;m writing letters to Trump at the Trump Hotel. They might get read they may not but the general public needs to know about all this mess as it is unconstitutional&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and yes the Ten commandments are still alive and basic religion is still in the constitution&#8230;its how one understands the constitution and George Washington knew his maker&#8230;.. or did he actually chop down that cherry tree.<br />
And we should all look for a better new year.<br />
                                                                                                       Happy Holidays</p>
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		By: Maestro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maestro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2016 01:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2016/12/new-updates-in-the-rain-in-the-cold-tent-in-woods-still-stands/#comment-25836&quot;&gt;JT&lt;/a&gt;.

JT,

&quot;I understand your frustrations. My husband is on probation in Idaho... He did spend 6 months in jail and has 3 1/2 years probation left out of 5 years.&quot;

There is no need for &quot;probation&quot; and here&#039;s why:

1) If you (&quot;you&quot; in general, not you personally) commit a crime that CAN carry up to (x number of years in prison) but the DA and the Judge agree to give you less time, then whatever the time is that they CHOSE to give you in a plea deal should be ALL that you do. Otherwise, if they felt the crime was THAT heinous, you&#039;d get much longer if not the full length of what the crime carries.

&quot;Yes you do “forfeit” your life but it is temporary...&quot;

2) And that &quot;temporary&quot; time is a waste of time and taxpayer money. Again, if the DA felt you should only do 6 month off of what COULD carry 5 years then you should be able to do the 6 months and be done with it. Being on probation doesn&#039;t make trying to find a job or home any easier. It makes it worse.

&quot;I would like to add that even though he has the restrictions, I also have them and I didn’t commit any crime.&quot; 

3) EXACTLY! But do you think the probation officers care about you? Think again. They are a legalized bully system. Period. And it earns them a paycheck. They also OVER-EXAGGERATE things, but that would take an entire article for me to get into detail. Here&#039;s an example: You unfortunately lose your job for WHATEVER reason. Probation wants to grill you to death about WHY. And the thoughts going thru their minds are that you probably have some kind of SEXUAL harrassment issue. My response to them when such a thing as losing a job has happened: &quot;Excuse me, am I on probation due to my employment status?&quot;

&quot;I know some people scoff at but it has been a positive for us.&quot;

4) There is NOTHING positive about probation NOR that ridiculous &quot;treatment&quot; program. In fact, the people who run the treatment groups are bigger back stabbers than the P.O.&#039;s are.

&quot;I am working on doing what I can to be a part of reform for sex offender laws and my husband also wants to help others when he has completed his probation.&quot;

5) What we should be doing (since most of the problems with homelessness and joblessness occur due to probation conditions) is change the probation &quot;rules&quot; or...and this is a better bet....fight to end the probation dept all together.
People HAVE taken more time in prison (not accepting plea deals) just to not have to come out onto probation.
People have PURPOSELY violated probation just to go back to do some time (you don&#039;t always do the full time hanging over your head - that&#039;s a scare tactic) to again, come out of prison with no further probation.

So in the long scheme of things, probation is UNNECESSARY. It&#039;s an excuse to play &quot;hero&quot; to the public as well as employ a bunch of baffoons who couldn&#039;t pass the Postal exam with a cheat sheet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2016/12/new-updates-in-the-rain-in-the-cold-tent-in-woods-still-stands/#comment-25836">JT</a>.</p>
<p>JT,</p>
<p>&#8220;I understand your frustrations. My husband is on probation in Idaho&#8230; He did spend 6 months in jail and has 3 1/2 years probation left out of 5 years.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no need for &#8220;probation&#8221; and here&#8217;s why:</p>
<p>1) If you (&#8220;you&#8221; in general, not you personally) commit a crime that CAN carry up to (x number of years in prison) but the DA and the Judge agree to give you less time, then whatever the time is that they CHOSE to give you in a plea deal should be ALL that you do. Otherwise, if they felt the crime was THAT heinous, you&#8217;d get much longer if not the full length of what the crime carries.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes you do “forfeit” your life but it is temporary&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>2) And that &#8220;temporary&#8221; time is a waste of time and taxpayer money. Again, if the DA felt you should only do 6 month off of what COULD carry 5 years then you should be able to do the 6 months and be done with it. Being on probation doesn&#8217;t make trying to find a job or home any easier. It makes it worse.</p>
<p>&#8220;I would like to add that even though he has the restrictions, I also have them and I didn’t commit any crime.&#8221; </p>
<p>3) EXACTLY! But do you think the probation officers care about you? Think again. They are a legalized bully system. Period. And it earns them a paycheck. They also OVER-EXAGGERATE things, but that would take an entire article for me to get into detail. Here&#8217;s an example: You unfortunately lose your job for WHATEVER reason. Probation wants to grill you to death about WHY. And the thoughts going thru their minds are that you probably have some kind of SEXUAL harrassment issue. My response to them when such a thing as losing a job has happened: &#8220;Excuse me, am I on probation due to my employment status?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I know some people scoff at but it has been a positive for us.&#8221;</p>
<p>4) There is NOTHING positive about probation NOR that ridiculous &#8220;treatment&#8221; program. In fact, the people who run the treatment groups are bigger back stabbers than the P.O.&#8217;s are.</p>
<p>&#8220;I am working on doing what I can to be a part of reform for sex offender laws and my husband also wants to help others when he has completed his probation.&#8221;</p>
<p>5) What we should be doing (since most of the problems with homelessness and joblessness occur due to probation conditions) is change the probation &#8220;rules&#8221; or&#8230;and this is a better bet&#8230;.fight to end the probation dept all together.<br />
People HAVE taken more time in prison (not accepting plea deals) just to not have to come out onto probation.<br />
People have PURPOSELY violated probation just to go back to do some time (you don&#8217;t always do the full time hanging over your head &#8211; that&#8217;s a scare tactic) to again, come out of prison with no further probation.</p>
<p>So in the long scheme of things, probation is UNNECESSARY. It&#8217;s an excuse to play &#8220;hero&#8221; to the public as well as employ a bunch of baffoons who couldn&#8217;t pass the Postal exam with a cheat sheet.</p>
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