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		By: Grace Roberts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grace Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2022 00:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I could not agree more and I am grateful to you and the other staff of this amazing organization! Keep fighting the good fight!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not agree more and I am grateful to you and the other staff of this amazing organization! Keep fighting the good fight!</p>
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		By: Perry P.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Perry P.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 23:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sandy; normally I wouldn&#039;t presume so debate you on anything you say, because you&#039;re Spot On. However, here I must differ in one thing you&#039;ve said: Legislators that make up Today&#039;s State and even federal Legislatures, do not care about being seen as fools at all. They know as long as they get The Votes they need to either stay in Office or Get Into Office, they&#039;ll readily agree and go along with whatever their Constituents say, even when many of them actually KNOW The Truth about Perceived Re-Offense Rates. Let&#039;s be honest about something shall we? The Registry has become a great way to have Federal Money generated into each State, because the keep a Registry up and running. They do not, and never will care about the damage done to children of Registrants either Incarcerated or Released on Parole/Probation. They know many of-if not nearly all of-these same kids get Bullied and many go so far as to commit Suicide BECAUSE of such Bullying. Yet There&#039;s nothing said about that. We cry day and night about Gun Violence taking the lives of Children, yet nothing&#039;s ever said when it comes to kids hurting or killing themselves because a Parent or Close Relative is on The Registry. So Obviously, The Legislators Do Not Care about them at all. &#039;Collateral Damage Politics&#039; must be their Mantra, as long as it keeps them in Office!
Nuff Said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy; normally I wouldn&#8217;t presume so debate you on anything you say, because you&#8217;re Spot On. However, here I must differ in one thing you&#8217;ve said: Legislators that make up Today&#8217;s State and even federal Legislatures, do not care about being seen as fools at all. They know as long as they get The Votes they need to either stay in Office or Get Into Office, they&#8217;ll readily agree and go along with whatever their Constituents say, even when many of them actually KNOW The Truth about Perceived Re-Offense Rates. Let&#8217;s be honest about something shall we? The Registry has become a great way to have Federal Money generated into each State, because the keep a Registry up and running. They do not, and never will care about the damage done to children of Registrants either Incarcerated or Released on Parole/Probation. They know many of-if not nearly all of-these same kids get Bullied and many go so far as to commit Suicide BECAUSE of such Bullying. Yet There&#8217;s nothing said about that. We cry day and night about Gun Violence taking the lives of Children, yet nothing&#8217;s ever said when it comes to kids hurting or killing themselves because a Parent or Close Relative is on The Registry. So Obviously, The Legislators Do Not Care about them at all. &#8216;Collateral Damage Politics&#8217; must be their Mantra, as long as it keeps them in Office!<br />
Nuff Said.</p>
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		By: Sandy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2021 14:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2021/11/time-to-decide-will-we-settle-for-feel-good-laws/#comment-35615&quot;&gt;WC_TN&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with what you say when it comes to individuals. Even when confronted with facts, most people disregard those that contradict their deeply held beliefs.

I do believe though, that with the volume and prestige of factual information growing each year saying that the registry system is a failure, that the point will come when the legislators that make up legislatures will have to pay attention or else be seen and perceived as fools.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2021/11/time-to-decide-will-we-settle-for-feel-good-laws/#comment-35615">WC_TN</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with what you say when it comes to individuals. Even when confronted with facts, most people disregard those that contradict their deeply held beliefs.</p>
<p>I do believe though, that with the volume and prestige of factual information growing each year saying that the registry system is a failure, that the point will come when the legislators that make up legislatures will have to pay attention or else be seen and perceived as fools.</p>
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		By: WC_TN		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WC_TN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2021 23:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2021/11/time-to-decide-will-we-settle-for-feel-good-laws/#comment-35614&quot;&gt;Emma Greer&lt;/a&gt;.

They know. They just feed into the torches and pitchfork mentality because it gets them the votes. That&#039;s all they care about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2021/11/time-to-decide-will-we-settle-for-feel-good-laws/#comment-35614">Emma Greer</a>.</p>
<p>They know. They just feed into the torches and pitchfork mentality because it gets them the votes. That&#8217;s all they care about.</p>
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		By: WC_TN		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WC_TN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2021 23:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article. I would say in 100% of the cases of hostile attitudes, it&#039;s a case of &quot;I don&#039;t care! Child molesters don&#039;t have any rights in my book.&quot; It&#039;s an attitude born of animosity and hate; not a lack of factual information. You can put facts right under people&#039;s noses and if they don&#039;t want to acknowledge them, they will not be forced.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. I would say in 100% of the cases of hostile attitudes, it&#8217;s a case of &#8220;I don&#8217;t care! Child molesters don&#8217;t have any rights in my book.&#8221; It&#8217;s an attitude born of animosity and hate; not a lack of factual information. You can put facts right under people&#8217;s noses and if they don&#8217;t want to acknowledge them, they will not be forced.</p>
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		By: Emma Greer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emma Greer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2021 23:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Lawmakers needs a better understanding about these people who are on the Registry.  It is harming their children as well as them. Some are Forced to be Homeless. This is not a safety measure. The Registry needs to be abolished.  Period!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lawmakers needs a better understanding about these people who are on the Registry.  It is harming their children as well as them. Some are Forced to be Homeless. This is not a safety measure. The Registry needs to be abolished.  Period!</p>
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		By: Maestro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maestro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2021 22:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2021/11/time-to-decide-will-we-settle-for-feel-good-laws/#comment-35611&quot;&gt;Tim in WI&lt;/a&gt;.

Referring to a sexual offense as “violent” is also part of the problem. Not all sex offenses are violent. 
Teenagers having romantic affairs with older people has been a thing for every generation. We even have movies glorifying it. Elvis was 24 to Priscilla’s 14. Was that “violent”? And to the Elvis apologists who like to defend him saying “bUt He DiDn’T HaVe SeX uNtiL hE mArTiEd hEr”, I have this to ask; Would YOU allow your 14 yr old daughter to date a 24 yr old man EVEN IF THEY ARENT HAVING SEX? 

It would be interesting to know what’s happening in the lives of the teenagers who “sexted” each other. How are their lives on the registry? Since teens have been forced to register publicly once they turn 18 and most states require at least 10 yrs of that, let’s hear about them. Are *they* being called “PaEdOpHiLeS”? Since society likes to equate sex offense with paedophilia. Or how about that adult couple that was caught doing the nasty on the beach? That made headlines. They’re both required to register. How’s that going for them? 
We need to hear more about those types of issues and not the stereotypical “Law &#038; Order: SVU” issues we always hear about and talk about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2021/11/time-to-decide-will-we-settle-for-feel-good-laws/#comment-35611">Tim in WI</a>.</p>
<p>Referring to a sexual offense as “violent” is also part of the problem. Not all sex offenses are violent.<br />
Teenagers having romantic affairs with older people has been a thing for every generation. We even have movies glorifying it. Elvis was 24 to Priscilla’s 14. Was that “violent”? And to the Elvis apologists who like to defend him saying “bUt He DiDn’T HaVe SeX uNtiL hE mArTiEd hEr”, I have this to ask; Would YOU allow your 14 yr old daughter to date a 24 yr old man EVEN IF THEY ARENT HAVING SEX? </p>
<p>It would be interesting to know what’s happening in the lives of the teenagers who “sexted” each other. How are their lives on the registry? Since teens have been forced to register publicly once they turn 18 and most states require at least 10 yrs of that, let’s hear about them. Are *they* being called “PaEdOpHiLeS”? Since society likes to equate sex offense with paedophilia. Or how about that adult couple that was caught doing the nasty on the beach? That made headlines. They’re both required to register. How’s that going for them?<br />
We need to hear more about those types of issues and not the stereotypical “Law &amp; Order: SVU” issues we always hear about and talk about.</p>
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		By: Bob P.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob P.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2021 22:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What will it take for society and the general public to shed the false perception that people who once committed a sexual offense are the worst of the worst and need to be on a registry, most for the entirety of their lives? If the SCOTUS were to finally proclaim that the registry IS INDEED PUNISHMENT would that make any difference in how local laws are promulgated? Why can&#039;t our lawmakers, law enforcement officials, local, state and federal authorities see and recognize the empirical data that clearly shows the registry is a FAILURE and is a waste of resources that could be used elsewhere? How do we educate the public to this fact?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What will it take for society and the general public to shed the false perception that people who once committed a sexual offense are the worst of the worst and need to be on a registry, most for the entirety of their lives? If the SCOTUS were to finally proclaim that the registry IS INDEED PUNISHMENT would that make any difference in how local laws are promulgated? Why can&#8217;t our lawmakers, law enforcement officials, local, state and federal authorities see and recognize the empirical data that clearly shows the registry is a FAILURE and is a waste of resources that could be used elsewhere? How do we educate the public to this fact?</p>
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		By: Tim in WI		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim in WI]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2021 07:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another excellent article describing the impact of poor leadership as expressed upon the people&#039;s perception of the social ill. No doubt there is lots of violence in our society. Sexual violence is considered especially onerous, yet only rarely does the sexualized attack result in death. The dead however cannot make themselves heard afterwards A fact not lost on victims of sexualized violence and their advocates who actively seek public and private affirmations of their stance. The inevitably resort to the notion that all &quot; sex offenders &quot; can not have learned from their criminal deeds and the people&#039;s responses to them. This notion ignores the fact that a human learns freely m those experiences. All criminals are treated to the criminal justice process. The processes are impactful, yet the purveyors of  permanent victim&#039;s stance consistently claim more is needed necessarily. It felt great to build a publicly available and accessible database, based upon the distortion in presumptive pathology cast upon completely different kinds of behavior. The registration system is full of folks never actually convicted of personal attack. Under WI statues SEC301.01 PURPOSE: describes the people&#039;s as intent behind the state&#039;s Department of Corrections,&quot;.... To prevent attack and the causes thereof...&quot; The WI regime also lists persons never convicted of a sexual offense, though abduction often has the sexual component, while others do not. These facts identify some other motivations than public safety behind the intent of such laws. Surely a 95 percent non recidivism rate is an improvement from past statistics which claimed a much higher rate, but this is a result of mission creep, and not a statistical proof the registration regimen works by prevention through knowledge or info available to the people. As registration violations rise beyond the actual recidivism the underlying intent of more incarceration is amplified.
The necessity of registration was based on certain predilections that cannot reasonably be associated broadly across vastly differing crimes, and yet the people permit it for the sake of the database. Feel good laws are a reflection of the people&#039;s desire to feel good about themselves and their environment. Certain product purveyors take advantage of this fact. Pharmaceutical opiates are good analogy to the sex offender registration system. Each a very popular invention with highly addictive uses and destructive collateral consequences which then results  further need of political and government driven action.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another excellent article describing the impact of poor leadership as expressed upon the people&#8217;s perception of the social ill. No doubt there is lots of violence in our society. Sexual violence is considered especially onerous, yet only rarely does the sexualized attack result in death. The dead however cannot make themselves heard afterwards A fact not lost on victims of sexualized violence and their advocates who actively seek public and private affirmations of their stance. The inevitably resort to the notion that all &#8221; sex offenders &#8221; can not have learned from their criminal deeds and the people&#8217;s responses to them. This notion ignores the fact that a human learns freely m those experiences. All criminals are treated to the criminal justice process. The processes are impactful, yet the purveyors of  permanent victim&#8217;s stance consistently claim more is needed necessarily. It felt great to build a publicly available and accessible database, based upon the distortion in presumptive pathology cast upon completely different kinds of behavior. The registration system is full of folks never actually convicted of personal attack. Under WI statues SEC301.01 PURPOSE: describes the people&#8217;s as intent behind the state&#8217;s Department of Corrections,&#8221;&#8230;. To prevent attack and the causes thereof&#8230;&#8221; The WI regime also lists persons never convicted of a sexual offense, though abduction often has the sexual component, while others do not. These facts identify some other motivations than public safety behind the intent of such laws. Surely a 95 percent non recidivism rate is an improvement from past statistics which claimed a much higher rate, but this is a result of mission creep, and not a statistical proof the registration regimen works by prevention through knowledge or info available to the people. As registration violations rise beyond the actual recidivism the underlying intent of more incarceration is amplified.<br />
The necessity of registration was based on certain predilections that cannot reasonably be associated broadly across vastly differing crimes, and yet the people permit it for the sake of the database. Feel good laws are a reflection of the people&#8217;s desire to feel good about themselves and their environment. Certain product purveyors take advantage of this fact. Pharmaceutical opiates are good analogy to the sex offender registration system. Each a very popular invention with highly addictive uses and destructive collateral consequences which then results  further need of political and government driven action.</p>
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