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		By: Michael C		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sex-offender-registry-a-bad-tool-says-narsols-chair-in-interview/#comment-32736&quot;&gt;Michael C&lt;/a&gt;.

Take this for example:
The sobering data
It’s bad however you look at it.

Firearm injuries are now the leading cause of death among people younger than 24 in the United States, according to a study published in the December 2022 edition of Pediatrics, the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics.

From 2015 through 2020, there were at least 2,070 unintentional shootings by children under 18 in the US, according to a report from Everytown. Those shootings resulted in 765 deaths and 1,366 injuries.

An unequal burden. A study published late last year in JAMA Network Open analyzed firearm deaths over the past three decades – a total of more than 1 million lives lost since 1990.

The researchers found that firearm mortality rates increased for most demographic groups in recent years – especially during the Covid-19 pandemic – but vast disparities persisted. The homicide rate among young Black men – 142 homicide deaths for every 100,000 Black men ages 20 to 24 – was nearly 10 times higher than the overall firearm death rate in the US in 2021.

But gun violence doesn&#039;t warrant parole supervision for life. Just 3 or 5 years, depending on how crowded or booked the system is, and how well your lawyer did on your case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sex-offender-registry-a-bad-tool-says-narsols-chair-in-interview/#comment-32736">Michael C</a>.</p>
<p>Take this for example:<br />
The sobering data<br />
It’s bad however you look at it.</p>
<p>Firearm injuries are now the leading cause of death among people younger than 24 in the United States, according to a study published in the December 2022 edition of Pediatrics, the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics.</p>
<p>From 2015 through 2020, there were at least 2,070 unintentional shootings by children under 18 in the US, according to a report from Everytown. Those shootings resulted in 765 deaths and 1,366 injuries.</p>
<p>An unequal burden. A study published late last year in JAMA Network Open analyzed firearm deaths over the past three decades – a total of more than 1 million lives lost since 1990.</p>
<p>The researchers found that firearm mortality rates increased for most demographic groups in recent years – especially during the Covid-19 pandemic – but vast disparities persisted. The homicide rate among young Black men – 142 homicide deaths for every 100,000 Black men ages 20 to 24 – was nearly 10 times higher than the overall firearm death rate in the US in 2021.</p>
<p>But gun violence doesn&#8217;t warrant parole supervision for life. Just 3 or 5 years, depending on how crowded or booked the system is, and how well your lawyer did on your case.</p>
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		By: Michael C		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2023 16:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[She said it clearly. It&#039;s to make someone suffer for the rest of their lives because they caused someone else to suffer for the rest of their life. Everything else we&#039;ll flush down this here toilet.
Why isn&#039;t everyone that has committed an act of gun violence on parole (let&#039;s call it what it really is) for life? Or anyone else who has caused emotional distress to someone that leaves a lasting scar? Half of the population would be on parole, the other half would be cops. 
Kill somebody by my house? Get 10 years and 3 to 5 years parole. After that. See ya buddy. have a good one. 
My case is 30 years old. Don&#039;t you think if I wanted to commit a crime I would of done it by now? Or the fact that I can stop typing right now and go commit a crime? A lot of money and man power being wasted if you ask me. Especially while crime is at an unprecedented level only matched by the Civil Rights Era that launched Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King from their perch to stop the oppressive abuse by, you guessed it. The cops. I&#039;m sorry but that&#039;s why I have a problem with some people defending this cruel and harsh penalty.
I&#039;m not saying people don&#039;t deserve to be punished for their crimes or face consequences for their actions. Quite the contrary. But this whole thing just reeks with poor decision making and sloppy drafting. Your country seems to be heading downhill quickly folks. I mean. like with the speed of a snowball. Shame.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She said it clearly. It&#8217;s to make someone suffer for the rest of their lives because they caused someone else to suffer for the rest of their life. Everything else we&#8217;ll flush down this here toilet.<br />
Why isn&#8217;t everyone that has committed an act of gun violence on parole (let&#8217;s call it what it really is) for life? Or anyone else who has caused emotional distress to someone that leaves a lasting scar? Half of the population would be on parole, the other half would be cops.<br />
Kill somebody by my house? Get 10 years and 3 to 5 years parole. After that. See ya buddy. have a good one.<br />
My case is 30 years old. Don&#8217;t you think if I wanted to commit a crime I would of done it by now? Or the fact that I can stop typing right now and go commit a crime? A lot of money and man power being wasted if you ask me. Especially while crime is at an unprecedented level only matched by the Civil Rights Era that launched Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King from their perch to stop the oppressive abuse by, you guessed it. The cops. I&#8217;m sorry but that&#8217;s why I have a problem with some people defending this cruel and harsh penalty.<br />
I&#8217;m not saying people don&#8217;t deserve to be punished for their crimes or face consequences for their actions. Quite the contrary. But this whole thing just reeks with poor decision making and sloppy drafting. Your country seems to be heading downhill quickly folks. I mean. like with the speed of a snowball. Shame.</p>
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		By: A		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2022 06:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Funny How he did&#039;t use AL report of it being 5.3% recidivism or other studies that show how ineffective the registry truly is. Clear to see how bias and one sided he was.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny How he did&#8217;t use AL report of it being 5.3% recidivism or other studies that show how ineffective the registry truly is. Clear to see how bias and one sided he was.</p>
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		By: Bob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2022 21:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sex-offender-registry-a-bad-tool-says-narsols-chair-in-interview/#comment-32726&quot;&gt;Jim&lt;/a&gt;.

And the drunk drivers don&#039;t have to register even after they kill or seriously injure someone. They don&#039;t have to inform the sheriff&#039;s department if they change vehicles or license plate numbers. They don&#039;t have to tell the sheriff&#039;s department what bars they frequent or where they&#039;re going to a party. And they kill over 10000 people a year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sex-offender-registry-a-bad-tool-says-narsols-chair-in-interview/#comment-32726">Jim</a>.</p>
<p>And the drunk drivers don&#8217;t have to register even after they kill or seriously injure someone. They don&#8217;t have to inform the sheriff&#8217;s department if they change vehicles or license plate numbers. They don&#8217;t have to tell the sheriff&#8217;s department what bars they frequent or where they&#8217;re going to a party. And they kill over 10000 people a year.</p>
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		By: Larry Cricks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Cricks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2022 15:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree while heartedly with the sex offender registry being abolished. Case in point? Both I and my wife were forced to take a plea deal which resulted in a false conviction against us. Innocent persons that are subjected to such horrific circumstances is a travesty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree while heartedly with the sex offender registry being abolished. Case in point? Both I and my wife were forced to take a plea deal which resulted in a false conviction against us. Innocent persons that are subjected to such horrific circumstances is a travesty.</p>
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		By: Dan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2022 20:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sex-offender-registry-a-bad-tool-says-narsols-chair-in-interview/#comment-32718&quot;&gt;Dan&lt;/a&gt;.

I would think that they believe it is worse. Someone can kill another person and never be on a registry.  This seems to be the easiest argument but no one takes it to the folks that &quot;need/want&quot; a registry.  how many DWI/DUI that have killed someone or hurt someone are on a registry? How many people that have commit home invasion robberies?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sex-offender-registry-a-bad-tool-says-narsols-chair-in-interview/#comment-32718">Dan</a>.</p>
<p>I would think that they believe it is worse. Someone can kill another person and never be on a registry.  This seems to be the easiest argument but no one takes it to the folks that &#8220;need/want&#8221; a registry.  how many DWI/DUI that have killed someone or hurt someone are on a registry? How many people that have commit home invasion robberies?</p>
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		By: Chris B		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2022 19:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The reporter said that the families who helped establish the Registry are against it but not willing to speak out against it publicly. What? What good is their stance then? They would have the loudest voices of anyone, yet they refuse to act.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reporter said that the families who helped establish the Registry are against it but not willing to speak out against it publicly. What? What good is their stance then? They would have the loudest voices of anyone, yet they refuse to act.</p>
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		By: Tim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2022 16:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sex-offender-registry-a-bad-tool-says-narsols-chair-in-interview/#comment-32718&quot;&gt;Dan&lt;/a&gt;.

yes and it continues to exist even though known perpetrators, who have positioned themselves in the other tier of justice by money and influence (such as prince andrew and those still unknown via jeffrey epstein and ghislaine maxwell) are not required to report, exemplify are more than one provable reality of nonprosecution caused by privilege, influence and money should be enough to invalidate the registry and the two tier nonjustice and abuse it represents...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sex-offender-registry-a-bad-tool-says-narsols-chair-in-interview/#comment-32718">Dan</a>.</p>
<p>yes and it continues to exist even though known perpetrators, who have positioned themselves in the other tier of justice by money and influence (such as prince andrew and those still unknown via jeffrey epstein and ghislaine maxwell) are not required to report, exemplify are more than one provable reality of nonprosecution caused by privilege, influence and money should be enough to invalidate the registry and the two tier nonjustice and abuse it represents&#8230;</p>
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		By: Joseph Argenio		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph Argenio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2022 13:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All of this puffery &#038; repetition is useless. We all know that registries are cruel &#038; unusual punishment, unconstitutional invasions of privacy, largely useless &#038; an hysterical reaction to a few egregious crimes applied way to broadly.
Meantime the nation reels from mass shootings with very little in the way of laws to restrict guns, for example.
Lawyers &#038; judges have failed us, but a civil suit has never been tried, consider:
1– repost websites make it possible for anyone to type in my name &#038; pull up my status, address, etc. far in excess of finding nearby offenders as claimed in the “public safety” intentions of registries law.
2– any poll of the public will easily reveal that people retain misconceptions about registrants. How can they not, when laws are named after the victims of the most heinous crimes. Hence, a flasher is conflated with rape &#038; murder of children. Ask the public and you’ll find, for example, the sex offender, child molester, pedophile and similar terms are conflated by the average person.
Registrants as a class have been harmed by these 2 facts. Where are all the tort lawyers, of which we seem to have many, to sue each state &#038; the federal government — hit them in the pockets. This country understands money! That’s why climate lawsuits are so frightening to the establishment.
Peace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this puffery &amp; repetition is useless. We all know that registries are cruel &amp; unusual punishment, unconstitutional invasions of privacy, largely useless &amp; an hysterical reaction to a few egregious crimes applied way to broadly.<br />
Meantime the nation reels from mass shootings with very little in the way of laws to restrict guns, for example.<br />
Lawyers &amp; judges have failed us, but a civil suit has never been tried, consider:<br />
1– repost websites make it possible for anyone to type in my name &amp; pull up my status, address, etc. far in excess of finding nearby offenders as claimed in the “public safety” intentions of registries law.<br />
2– any poll of the public will easily reveal that people retain misconceptions about registrants. How can they not, when laws are named after the victims of the most heinous crimes. Hence, a flasher is conflated with rape &amp; murder of children. Ask the public and you’ll find, for example, the sex offender, child molester, pedophile and similar terms are conflated by the average person.<br />
Registrants as a class have been harmed by these 2 facts. Where are all the tort lawyers, of which we seem to have many, to sue each state &amp; the federal government — hit them in the pockets. This country understands money! That’s why climate lawsuits are so frightening to the establishment.<br />
Peace.</p>
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		By: Jeremy from Indiana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy from Indiana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2022 09:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unpopular opinion:

I don&#039;t think Mr. Vander Wall is using the correct arguments here.  To say it&#039;s &quot;unfair&quot; or &quot;unjust&quot; will definitely fall on deaf ears.  The general public believes we deserve anything and everything they can punish us with.  The proper argument would be to point out that the registry is supposed to be a &quot;safety&quot; tool and it fails miserably in that regard.  It should also be pointed out that the ostracization of the registry not only affects the former offender, but anyone in his or her household and his or her employer.  This includes the former offender&#039;s children.  The other proper argument would be the fact that the registry was ONLY declared constitutional because it&#039;s a &quot;civil regulatory scheme&quot; i.e. NOT punishment.  Therefore, all arguments for or against it being punishment are irrelevant.  The only arguments that matter is if it does what it&#039;s supposed to do... It doesn&#039;t.

In presenting these arguments, I would suggest having concrete facts from peer reviewed studies (with citations) at the ready, such as the 5.3% recidivism rate.  I would also compare the rate of recidivism prior to and after implementation of the registry to show no significant change.

We are not going to change the hearts and minds of people who hate us for what we did by asking them not to hate us.  We can only change it by showing the ineffectiveness of their current &quot;solution&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unpopular opinion:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Mr. Vander Wall is using the correct arguments here.  To say it&#8217;s &#8220;unfair&#8221; or &#8220;unjust&#8221; will definitely fall on deaf ears.  The general public believes we deserve anything and everything they can punish us with.  The proper argument would be to point out that the registry is supposed to be a &#8220;safety&#8221; tool and it fails miserably in that regard.  It should also be pointed out that the ostracization of the registry not only affects the former offender, but anyone in his or her household and his or her employer.  This includes the former offender&#8217;s children.  The other proper argument would be the fact that the registry was ONLY declared constitutional because it&#8217;s a &#8220;civil regulatory scheme&#8221; i.e. NOT punishment.  Therefore, all arguments for or against it being punishment are irrelevant.  The only arguments that matter is if it does what it&#8217;s supposed to do&#8230; It doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>In presenting these arguments, I would suggest having concrete facts from peer reviewed studies (with citations) at the ready, such as the 5.3% recidivism rate.  I would also compare the rate of recidivism prior to and after implementation of the registry to show no significant change.</p>
<p>We are not going to change the hearts and minds of people who hate us for what we did by asking them not to hate us.  We can only change it by showing the ineffectiveness of their current &#8220;solution&#8221;</p>
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