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		By: CJB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CJB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2022 11:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sweet-victory-in-florida-eleventh-circuit-gives-go-ahead-to-f-a-c-case/#comment-25498&quot;&gt;Trevoe Sisk&lt;/a&gt;.

&#039;Discretionary Powers&#039;, means that &#039;De-Satan&#039;, has unlimited Authority...So, therefore, Flori-DUH is not a Democracy!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sweet-victory-in-florida-eleventh-circuit-gives-go-ahead-to-f-a-c-case/#comment-25498">Trevoe Sisk</a>.</p>
<p>&#8216;Discretionary Powers&#8217;, means that &#8216;De-Satan&#8217;, has unlimited Authority&#8230;So, therefore, Flori-DUH is not a Democracy!</p>
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		By: rpsabq		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rpsabq]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2022 04:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You watch the next excuse the State will use is 11th Ammendment Immunity which bars Federal Courts from telling State officials how to comply with State Law.  If you take a look at which cases have actually had any effect it is those which have been decided by that State&#039;s Supreme Court or appeals from state Supreme Court decisions.   State Courts avoid the argument completely and the The Supreme Court of Florida refuses to hear any cases involving sex offenders.   Federal Courts have not been any help and it doesn&#039;t look like this will change anytime soon.  Florida&#039;s only hope is for a case to make it to the SCOTUS which  gives them an opportunity to say something like, &quot;Sex Offender Registries are illegal everywhere&quot; or &quot;Sex Offender Laws in all 50 states are punishment.&quot;   Time will tell is the only constant.   SCOTUS is more often willing to hear and overturn a State Supreme Court decision rather than a Federal Appeals Court decision.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You watch the next excuse the State will use is 11th Ammendment Immunity which bars Federal Courts from telling State officials how to comply with State Law.  If you take a look at which cases have actually had any effect it is those which have been decided by that State&#8217;s Supreme Court or appeals from state Supreme Court decisions.   State Courts avoid the argument completely and the The Supreme Court of Florida refuses to hear any cases involving sex offenders.   Federal Courts have not been any help and it doesn&#8217;t look like this will change anytime soon.  Florida&#8217;s only hope is for a case to make it to the SCOTUS which  gives them an opportunity to say something like, &#8220;Sex Offender Registries are illegal everywhere&#8221; or &#8220;Sex Offender Laws in all 50 states are punishment.&#8221;   Time will tell is the only constant.   SCOTUS is more often willing to hear and overturn a State Supreme Court decision rather than a Federal Appeals Court decision.</p>
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		By: Tim in WI		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim in WI]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2022 02:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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Its a mistake to presume lack of cognitive function upon our leadership. When it come to technology, most of which is derived of gov grants to institutions galore, the intermediate time line is considered. One must necessarily consider &quot;collateral consequences.&quot; Smith V Doe. The registry is a database machine. Mother more and nothing less. We know the idea came long before it&#039;s codification. Codification is another term being tossed about these days ( abortion) and was also probative and in the Doh! Opinion. In was the first time human became indentured servant to machine, ones remoteness notwithstanding. (Kozminski et. al. 488 US 931) Who benefits most from electronic surveillance? Clearly America has millions of cameras &#038; recording devices but note one has prevented an attempted crime. All stored camera captured images are also stored on electric database. Surely the device is useful to capture crimes being enacted even crimes committed by cops but still doesn&#039;t deter much at all. Police use it to set up stings, but these tactics were being utilized long before the database. Sex offender registration was about much more than passive interdiction. it was about unfettered uses and application. Only the purveyors of the machine would benefit most.  Eisenhower made his point clear but the smell of profit and power made it happen. Thus an old judge named it cruel and unusual!]]></description>
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Its a mistake to presume lack of cognitive function upon our leadership. When it come to technology, most of which is derived of gov grants to institutions galore, the intermediate time line is considered. One must necessarily consider &#8220;collateral consequences.&#8221; Smith V Doe. The registry is a database machine. Mother more and nothing less. We know the idea came long before it&#8217;s codification. Codification is another term being tossed about these days ( abortion) and was also probative and in the Doh! Opinion. In was the first time human became indentured servant to machine, ones remoteness notwithstanding. (Kozminski et. al. 488 US 931) Who benefits most from electronic surveillance? Clearly America has millions of cameras &amp; recording devices but note one has prevented an attempted crime. All stored camera captured images are also stored on electric database. Surely the device is useful to capture crimes being enacted even crimes committed by cops but still doesn&#8217;t deter much at all. Police use it to set up stings, but these tactics were being utilized long before the database. Sex offender registration was about much more than passive interdiction. it was about unfettered uses and application. Only the purveyors of the machine would benefit most.  Eisenhower made his point clear but the smell of profit and power made it happen. Thus an old judge named it cruel and unusual!</p>
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		By: Larry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2022 09:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sweet-victory-in-florida-eleventh-circuit-gives-go-ahead-to-f-a-c-case/#comment-25509&quot;&gt;Jacob&lt;/a&gt;.

Jacob, I say this with over 12 years of experience dealing with this system and the courts.  This is a positive ruling as long as you are named.  The fact is that the courts are defensive of each other but their own comes first. 
This ruling will accomplish nothing as it doesn&#039;t set precedent in any court other than it&#039;s self. The Federal district courts will not touch any constitutional issues as they are not Articale III courts. The only court that is authorized to decide a constitutional challenge is SCOTUS. I have filed for certiorari on 5 different occasions and was denied for 5 different reasons.  I even had a SCOTUS clerk help me and I received a denial for a reason that he hadn&#039;t heard of.  Not once were the merits of the arguments even mentioned. 
One case did reach SCOTUS and the record was sealed. 
So yes this ruling was positive, but it has little effect on anyone else. The better bet is the recent one in Pennsylvania, because it is on a state level where the registry is the law.  The registry is not Federal law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sweet-victory-in-florida-eleventh-circuit-gives-go-ahead-to-f-a-c-case/#comment-25509">Jacob</a>.</p>
<p>Jacob, I say this with over 12 years of experience dealing with this system and the courts.  This is a positive ruling as long as you are named.  The fact is that the courts are defensive of each other but their own comes first.<br />
This ruling will accomplish nothing as it doesn&#8217;t set precedent in any court other than it&#8217;s self. The Federal district courts will not touch any constitutional issues as they are not Articale III courts. The only court that is authorized to decide a constitutional challenge is SCOTUS. I have filed for certiorari on 5 different occasions and was denied for 5 different reasons.  I even had a SCOTUS clerk help me and I received a denial for a reason that he hadn&#8217;t heard of.  Not once were the merits of the arguments even mentioned.<br />
One case did reach SCOTUS and the record was sealed.<br />
So yes this ruling was positive, but it has little effect on anyone else. The better bet is the recent one in Pennsylvania, because it is on a state level where the registry is the law.  The registry is not Federal law.</p>
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		By: Tim in WI		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim in WI]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2022 00:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sweet-victory-in-florida-eleventh-circuit-gives-go-ahead-to-f-a-c-case/#comment-25509&quot;&gt;Jacob&lt;/a&gt;.

The negative spiral reflects the nation as a whole. 
The people around have witnessed inevitable failure despite rulings &quot; in their favor&quot; but without results in reality-- See the state of MI.  WI has stated victory in the issue in a fed district court only to be overturned by the 7th. These events breed hopelessness. The hole the people are focused on child rearing and bad guys and the use of the databas, the purveyors of the databases &#038; DDI are behaving like fascists engaged in imperialism. Kings of Capital!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sweet-victory-in-florida-eleventh-circuit-gives-go-ahead-to-f-a-c-case/#comment-25509">Jacob</a>.</p>
<p>The negative spiral reflects the nation as a whole.<br />
The people around have witnessed inevitable failure despite rulings &#8221; in their favor&#8221; but without results in reality&#8211; See the state of MI.  WI has stated victory in the issue in a fed district court only to be overturned by the 7th. These events breed hopelessness. The hole the people are focused on child rearing and bad guys and the use of the databas, the purveyors of the databases &amp; DDI are behaving like fascists engaged in imperialism. Kings of Capital!</p>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2022 22:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’m surprised at the number of negative comments here about an appellate court agreeing with our side and RULING IN OUR FAVOR on our appeal that we filed with them.

Some of us are sore winners.  If there’s a negative way to spin something, you can count on NARSOL members to find a way to do so.  Or perhaps some readers just misunderstood the ruling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m surprised at the number of negative comments here about an appellate court agreeing with our side and RULING IN OUR FAVOR on our appeal that we filed with them.</p>
<p>Some of us are sore winners.  If there’s a negative way to spin something, you can count on NARSOL members to find a way to do so.  Or perhaps some readers just misunderstood the ruling.</p>
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		By: A Mistake They Made		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Mistake They Made]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2022 17:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In todays Kangaroo courts the challenge is not trying to make a good case it is trying to get a ruling on the MERITS of the said case that posses the biggest challenge. They just love to waive your right to a argument that makes you wrongfully convicted. This goes against every fiber of our justice system. I have a very strong PCR case based on ineffective assistance of counsel it did not make it to the appeals court because my lawyer did not file it in time he said he missed the e-mail. So Now I need a PCR IAOC case to get my PCR IAOC to be in front of the court. It just reassures me that my case is very strong. How many times/ways can lawyers make a mistake before you start to wonder if it is on purpose? If the Merits of a case show injustice no technicality should be able to stop the remedy of said injustice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In todays Kangaroo courts the challenge is not trying to make a good case it is trying to get a ruling on the MERITS of the said case that posses the biggest challenge. They just love to waive your right to a argument that makes you wrongfully convicted. This goes against every fiber of our justice system. I have a very strong PCR case based on ineffective assistance of counsel it did not make it to the appeals court because my lawyer did not file it in time he said he missed the e-mail. So Now I need a PCR IAOC case to get my PCR IAOC to be in front of the court. It just reassures me that my case is very strong. How many times/ways can lawyers make a mistake before you start to wonder if it is on purpose? If the Merits of a case show injustice no technicality should be able to stop the remedy of said injustice.</p>
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		By: Jim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2022 03:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is just a b/s ruling that spins it back into the court system. The us will never admit the registry is wrong. They still hold on to the Indian reservations for the same reasons. But there is a different way to make us heard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just a b/s ruling that spins it back into the court system. The us will never admit the registry is wrong. They still hold on to the Indian reservations for the same reasons. But there is a different way to make us heard.</p>
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		By: Joann D'Aprile-Lubrano		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joann D'Aprile-Lubrano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2022 18:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sweet-victory-in-florida-eleventh-circuit-gives-go-ahead-to-f-a-c-case/#comment-25493&quot;&gt;Larry&lt;/a&gt;.

They did, and thank you for that information on the series. 
Th lawmakers indeed just look to justify their irrational thinking by finding some bit of law that supports their warped views, even if those laws have nothing to do with the  offender case directly. It&#039;s like going through a semantics maze.
Good luck to you sir. Keep on keeping on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sweet-victory-in-florida-eleventh-circuit-gives-go-ahead-to-f-a-c-case/#comment-25493">Larry</a>.</p>
<p>They did, and thank you for that information on the series.<br />
Th lawmakers indeed just look to justify their irrational thinking by finding some bit of law that supports their warped views, even if those laws have nothing to do with the  offender case directly. It&#8217;s like going through a semantics maze.<br />
Good luck to you sir. Keep on keeping on.</p>
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		By: Trevoe Sisk		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevoe Sisk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sweet-victory-in-florida-eleventh-circuit-gives-go-ahead-to-f-a-c-case/#comment-25497&quot;&gt;Trevoe Sisk&lt;/a&gt;.

Plus we have a Governor who has a wide range of decretionary powers not found in other states and is using that power to remove and replace judges, school boards and state prosecutors.   

Please prove me wrong.   All I know is we have been working hard for 10 solid years - one of the most active groups in the country and have yet to find ANY meaningful relief from the courts.   We had a Federal Judge in Miami that said a policy which forces people into homelessness ISN&#039;T punishment for christ&#039;s sake!   Another judge who dismissed one of our cases without provocation or reason, forcing a lengthy appeal.  

Something is rotten Denmark!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2022/11/sweet-victory-in-florida-eleventh-circuit-gives-go-ahead-to-f-a-c-case/#comment-25497">Trevoe Sisk</a>.</p>
<p>Plus we have a Governor who has a wide range of decretionary powers not found in other states and is using that power to remove and replace judges, school boards and state prosecutors.   </p>
<p>Please prove me wrong.   All I know is we have been working hard for 10 solid years &#8211; one of the most active groups in the country and have yet to find ANY meaningful relief from the courts.   We had a Federal Judge in Miami that said a policy which forces people into homelessness ISN&#8217;T punishment for christ&#8217;s sake!   Another judge who dismissed one of our cases without provocation or reason, forcing a lengthy appeal.  </p>
<p>Something is rotten Denmark!</p>
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