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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://www.narsol.org/2023/08/mugshots-are-not-a-good-look-for-anyone/#comment-41627</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2023 21:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2023/08/mugshots-are-not-a-good-look-for-anyone/#comment-41592&quot;&gt;Christian&lt;/a&gt;.

There are people that are dead and some who did not even commit a crime or there charges were dismissed and still on those mug shot sites. Those sites get paid for advertisers to place ads on the sites. So they are making money off of us, thus making money off the registry which is illegal but rarely enforced.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2023/08/mugshots-are-not-a-good-look-for-anyone/#comment-41592">Christian</a>.</p>
<p>There are people that are dead and some who did not even commit a crime or there charges were dismissed and still on those mug shot sites. Those sites get paid for advertisers to place ads on the sites. So they are making money off of us, thus making money off the registry which is illegal but rarely enforced.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2023 21:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well it is a far cry from being a Glamor shot.  I have gotten my picture taken more times for the registry, now that I have been on the registry since 1997, than all the photos of me combined in my lifetime.
No other Ex-felons have to get an updated photo unless they commit another crime.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it is a far cry from being a Glamor shot.  I have gotten my picture taken more times for the registry, now that I have been on the registry since 1997, than all the photos of me combined in my lifetime.<br />
No other Ex-felons have to get an updated photo unless they commit another crime.</p>
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		By: Pamela Scott		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pamela Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2023 06:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, this is a freedom of information issue.  Freedom of something . Once having taken the mugshot, it is government information that we should have access to. But so then, stop mug-shots pre-coviction. Fixed. Of course that will cut down on pretrial detention. Which is horribly over-used.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is a freedom of information issue.  Freedom of something . Once having taken the mugshot, it is government information that we should have access to. But so then, stop mug-shots pre-coviction. Fixed. Of course that will cut down on pretrial detention. Which is horribly over-used.</p>
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		By: TS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2023 19:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great post and thoughts with it.  For context, below is the description from Wikipedia about mug shots (and there is more if one wants to read it there), which makes me wonder, why are PFRs continually having photographs (mug shots?) taken every check in and then having them posted?  It seems they are not the same purpose as a mug shot was intended.  Should not those who have offended under other statutes not also have their photos taken so anyone can ID them later if need be?  Rhetorical question of course...

&quot;A mug shot or mugshot (an informal term for police photograph or booking photograph) is a photographic portrait of a person from the shoulders up, typically taken after a person is arrested.[1][2] The original purpose of the mug shot was to allow law enforcement to have a photographic record of an arrested individual to allow for identification by victims, the public and investigators. However, in the United States, entrepreneurs have recently begun to monetize these public records via the mug shot publishing industry.

Photographing of criminals began in the 1840s only a few years after the invention of photography, but it was not until 1888 that French police officer Alphonse Bertillon standardized the process. &quot;

(I&#039;d hate to think of the montage or collection of photos I have with the PD from my arrest to now when I check in to see how much I have actually aged and had weight fluctuations.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and thoughts with it.  For context, below is the description from Wikipedia about mug shots (and there is more if one wants to read it there), which makes me wonder, why are PFRs continually having photographs (mug shots?) taken every check in and then having them posted?  It seems they are not the same purpose as a mug shot was intended.  Should not those who have offended under other statutes not also have their photos taken so anyone can ID them later if need be?  Rhetorical question of course&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;A mug shot or mugshot (an informal term for police photograph or booking photograph) is a photographic portrait of a person from the shoulders up, typically taken after a person is arrested.[1][2] The original purpose of the mug shot was to allow law enforcement to have a photographic record of an arrested individual to allow for identification by victims, the public and investigators. However, in the United States, entrepreneurs have recently begun to monetize these public records via the mug shot publishing industry.</p>
<p>Photographing of criminals began in the 1840s only a few years after the invention of photography, but it was not until 1888 that French police officer Alphonse Bertillon standardized the process. &#8221;</p>
<p>(I&#8217;d hate to think of the montage or collection of photos I have with the PD from my arrest to now when I check in to see how much I have actually aged and had weight fluctuations.)</p>
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		By: R.Arens		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R.Arens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2023 13:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I did my once a year mug shot for the sor. I showed up in a 800 dollar tux. Nice haircut. Crisp as a 100 dollar bill. I could see that rubbed the officer the wrong way but they did the picture regardless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did my once a year mug shot for the sor. I showed up in a 800 dollar tux. Nice haircut. Crisp as a 100 dollar bill. I could see that rubbed the officer the wrong way but they did the picture regardless.</p>
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		By: William M. Hart		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William M. Hart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2023 12:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with all that you said.  However, equal justice equals equal treatment. I&#039;ve never known or seen anyone who was arrested for anything whose photo was taken in a suit and tie. I didn&#039;t have the option of being bailed out before being arrested and I never met anyone else who was afforded such.
Evidently there are at least two systems of justice in the US.  You know above all people that anyone charged with a sex offense is treated differently from the moment of arrest.  No person accused of a so called  &quot;white collar&quot; crime is ever treated the same as most in the system.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all that you said.  However, equal justice equals equal treatment. I&#8217;ve never known or seen anyone who was arrested for anything whose photo was taken in a suit and tie. I didn&#8217;t have the option of being bailed out before being arrested and I never met anyone else who was afforded such.<br />
Evidently there are at least two systems of justice in the US.  You know above all people that anyone charged with a sex offense is treated differently from the moment of arrest.  No person accused of a so called  &#8220;white collar&#8221; crime is ever treated the same as most in the system.</p>
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		By: Jay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2023 05:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So the state of  Oregon can no longer have inmate photos posted on there  website. There was a law for this that Is preventing them to do so.
Going back a couple years now. But the registry. Is able to post pass and Current photos for some reason :(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the state of  Oregon can no longer have inmate photos posted on there  website. There was a law for this that Is preventing them to do so.<br />
Going back a couple years now. But the registry. Is able to post pass and Current photos for some reason 🙁</p>
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		By: Oswaldo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oswaldo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2023 02:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The foundation of our criminal justice system is that every American citizen,  without exception,  is the principle of &quot;innocent until proven guilty.&quot; If a person is so dangerous,  as determined by the courts, that the person is a threat to public safety,  then they should not be released on bail. At no time should their picture mugshot) should not be published.  As a journalist educated in the 70&#039;s this was common knowledge,  at least among responsible journalists.   As it applies to those accused of sex offenses, to publish a mugshot usually results in termination of employment,  loss of family and friends,  loss of social status... the list of consequences goes on and on.
The general public would be better served if we all defend each other&#039;s rights fiercely and diligently. Only then will justice be served and our basic freedoms protected.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The foundation of our criminal justice system is that every American citizen,  without exception,  is the principle of &#8220;innocent until proven guilty.&#8221; If a person is so dangerous,  as determined by the courts, that the person is a threat to public safety,  then they should not be released on bail. At no time should their picture mugshot) should not be published.  As a journalist educated in the 70&#8217;s this was common knowledge,  at least among responsible journalists.   As it applies to those accused of sex offenses, to publish a mugshot usually results in termination of employment,  loss of family and friends,  loss of social status&#8230; the list of consequences goes on and on.<br />
The general public would be better served if we all defend each other&#8217;s rights fiercely and diligently. Only then will justice be served and our basic freedoms protected.</p>
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		By: Christian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2023 20:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amen to this!
If we are truly supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, the release of mug shots to the public absolutely clouds judgement. 
Worse still are what I consider the evil websites and &quot;businesses&quot; that publish all mug shots and exact a ransom from the alleged perpetrator to have the photos removed. That should be illegal in my eyes. 
No mug shot should be released until after a court or juries decision of guilt or innocence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to this!<br />
If we are truly supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, the release of mug shots to the public absolutely clouds judgement.<br />
Worse still are what I consider the evil websites and &#8220;businesses&#8221; that publish all mug shots and exact a ransom from the alleged perpetrator to have the photos removed. That should be illegal in my eyes.<br />
No mug shot should be released until after a court or juries decision of guilt or innocence.</p>
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		By: Ben		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2023 19:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, it’s a start. However, it’s centered on only pre-conviction mugshots. Each state registry posts photographs of the offender that are utilized in the same way by online and printed publications, and it harnesses ridicule and hatred, and they are used over and over and over again. Those that view these photos in those publications, many times think of these registry photos as being a fresh mugshot and think the individual in the photo is facing those charges, even if it was from a 20 year old conviction.

Privacy laws continue to be eroded, but regardless of a criminal conviction, why is it continually considered legal to post anyone’s photograph online without their consent? The registry itself, with its mugshots and personal information posted is a violation of privacy. There are legal minds who will say the laws say otherwise that because of the concerns for “public safety”, the registry and its photographs must remain and the individuals who are listed have lost their right to privacy. That argument is a slippery slope for every citizen’s privacy. What can be done to one group of people, will eventually be justified and done to another and then another. Any law that makes that legal should be challenged and appealed to the highest court as many times as necessary until there are privacy laws equally applicable to everyone.

This article about mugshots is a positive step, but it should be considered for all photograph’s being published publicly with no exception made for the registry. The bigger picture here is the privacy of the individual against the public’s right to information.
My 2 cents.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it’s a start. However, it’s centered on only pre-conviction mugshots. Each state registry posts photographs of the offender that are utilized in the same way by online and printed publications, and it harnesses ridicule and hatred, and they are used over and over and over again. Those that view these photos in those publications, many times think of these registry photos as being a fresh mugshot and think the individual in the photo is facing those charges, even if it was from a 20 year old conviction.</p>
<p>Privacy laws continue to be eroded, but regardless of a criminal conviction, why is it continually considered legal to post anyone’s photograph online without their consent? The registry itself, with its mugshots and personal information posted is a violation of privacy. There are legal minds who will say the laws say otherwise that because of the concerns for “public safety”, the registry and its photographs must remain and the individuals who are listed have lost their right to privacy. That argument is a slippery slope for every citizen’s privacy. What can be done to one group of people, will eventually be justified and done to another and then another. Any law that makes that legal should be challenged and appealed to the highest court as many times as necessary until there are privacy laws equally applicable to everyone.</p>
<p>This article about mugshots is a positive step, but it should be considered for all photograph’s being published publicly with no exception made for the registry. The bigger picture here is the privacy of the individual against the public’s right to information.<br />
My 2 cents.</p>
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