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		By: ǪG̛̀-C̡̀apo		</title>
		<link>https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-44594</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ǪG̛̀-C̡̀apo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43799&quot;&gt;George Simmonds&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s the funny thing about it.. they&#039;ll never mention anything good about you! 
They put up this bullshit article on my friend saying that he brought two girls to his dungeon. When he met these girls at 2:00 in the morning and one of them was 16 and didn&#039;t even realize it cuz the older girl was pimping her out. But they never took that article down and they never changed it either. Those girls willingly went to his house cuz he had no where to stay for the night. And never ever did he rape them or do anything they never wanted to. Later on it was proven that the girl willingly went with him. And that she was never forced upon either. But here he is still with the charge.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43799">George Simmonds</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the funny thing about it.. they&#8217;ll never mention anything good about you!<br />
They put up this bullshit article on my friend saying that he brought two girls to his dungeon. When he met these girls at 2:00 in the morning and one of them was 16 and didn&#8217;t even realize it cuz the older girl was pimping her out. But they never took that article down and they never changed it either. Those girls willingly went to his house cuz he had no where to stay for the night. And never ever did he rape them or do anything they never wanted to. Later on it was proven that the girl willingly went with him. And that she was never forced upon either. But here he is still with the charge.</p>
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		By: ǪG̛̀-C̡̀apo		</title>
		<link>https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-44591</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ǪG̛̀-C̡̀apo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2024 19:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43787&quot;&gt;Jann Patterson&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4af.png" alt="💯" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />%

It doesn&#039;t help them out at all.. I do have a couple of friends who deal with that. It&#039;s crazy because jobs are complaining they have nobody to help work but yet these people need work These people will not mess around and lose their jobs. 
Yes there&#039;s some that actual need serious treatment. And I believe if they do mess up the second time then they need to be punished severely then the first time. But I believe in second chances!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43787">Jann Patterson</a>.</p>
<p>I agree 💯%</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t help them out at all.. I do have a couple of friends who deal with that. It&#8217;s crazy because jobs are complaining they have nobody to help work but yet these people need work These people will not mess around and lose their jobs.<br />
Yes there&#8217;s some that actual need serious treatment. And I believe if they do mess up the second time then they need to be punished severely then the first time. But I believe in second chances!</p>
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		By: Tim in WI		</title>
		<link>https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43900</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim in WI]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2024 16:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Getting in trouble with law enforcement doesn&#039;t necessarily begin with police officers. Most of registrant&#039;s problems emanate from administrative agents. The case lead by Mr. Smith  against the firmer prez is in a hearing to determine whether Mr. Smith&#039;s appointment itself ( as special Council) was lawful done. Which reminded me of the last indictment for FTR put on me by WIDOCSOR. The case was in 2018-19. The county judge which  approved the summons was on the bench without being elected in the county by election as required by WI law.  His residence was in the county to the east and state law requires judges to reside in the same county as they sit bench in. He had maintained his membership to thev State  bar association though retired.  He was a special appointment because of an illness to another judge who had heart trouble.  That meant every case before the bench was lawfully questionable.  That indictment was dropped.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting in trouble with law enforcement doesn&#8217;t necessarily begin with police officers. Most of registrant&#8217;s problems emanate from administrative agents. The case lead by Mr. Smith  against the firmer prez is in a hearing to determine whether Mr. Smith&#8217;s appointment itself ( as special Council) was lawful done. Which reminded me of the last indictment for FTR put on me by WIDOCSOR. The case was in 2018-19. The county judge which  approved the summons was on the bench without being elected in the county by election as required by WI law.  His residence was in the county to the east and state law requires judges to reside in the same county as they sit bench in. He had maintained his membership to thev State  bar association though retired.  He was a special appointment because of an illness to another judge who had heart trouble.  That meant every case before the bench was lawfully questionable.  That indictment was dropped.</p>
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		By: CJ		</title>
		<link>https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43862</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2024 07:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43791&quot;&gt;Former Offender&lt;/a&gt;.

&#039;Former Offender&#039;

Also, we all forget nowadays in this internet world,  Search Engines; Anyone with a Conviction appears on Internet Search Engines for the Rest of their lives

For Example:
Flori-Duh&#039;s FDLE Offender Network has a way of being able to put the Citizen Forced to Register&#039;s Name at the top of the Google Internet Search List...curious how FDLE is able to leverage Google to do that...interesting fact...so if you go on Google and search John DDDDD, who is a Citizen who is Forced to Register, John DDDDD&#039;s name appears first in the Internet Search

So at the end of the day, all Citizens Forced to Register will always be on a &#039;LIST&#039;; no matter what

Only solution is to pay a real reputation defender where they can get your name reduced down on the internet search lists from like number one to maybe 100K in the search

but that costs btw $250K-$750K.  For True]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43791">Former Offender</a>.</p>
<p>&#8216;Former Offender&#8217;</p>
<p>Also, we all forget nowadays in this internet world,  Search Engines; Anyone with a Conviction appears on Internet Search Engines for the Rest of their lives</p>
<p>For Example:<br />
Flori-Duh&#8217;s FDLE Offender Network has a way of being able to put the Citizen Forced to Register&#8217;s Name at the top of the Google Internet Search List&#8230;curious how FDLE is able to leverage Google to do that&#8230;interesting fact&#8230;so if you go on Google and search John DDDDD, who is a Citizen who is Forced to Register, John DDDDD&#8217;s name appears first in the Internet Search</p>
<p>So at the end of the day, all Citizens Forced to Register will always be on a &#8216;LIST&#8217;; no matter what</p>
<p>Only solution is to pay a real reputation defender where they can get your name reduced down on the internet search lists from like number one to maybe 100K in the search</p>
<p>but that costs btw $250K-$750K.  For True</p>
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		By: Tim in WI		</title>
		<link>https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43821</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim in WI]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2024 11:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sandy,
I guess we all got the leadership that was voted for.  As for getting in trouble as a registrant I&#039;ve faced FTR felony indictments 7 times beginning in 1998. Each time I demanded a trial and brought facts to the court including the sentencing transcript and the Judgement of conviction ( form - 20) from the qualifying 1992 sex offense.  Neither makes reference to the sex offender registry, nor the obligation to register.  Those are facts that cast doubt on states claim and are relevant jury fodder..  Commitments to WIDOC  all necessarily requires a -20 signed by a judge to be considered  lawful, unless otherwise waived by a standard waiver of civil in the original case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy,<br />
I guess we all got the leadership that was voted for.  As for getting in trouble as a registrant I&#8217;ve faced FTR felony indictments 7 times beginning in 1998. Each time I demanded a trial and brought facts to the court including the sentencing transcript and the Judgement of conviction ( form &#8211; 20) from the qualifying 1992 sex offense.  Neither makes reference to the sex offender registry, nor the obligation to register.  Those are facts that cast doubt on states claim and are relevant jury fodder..  Commitments to WIDOC  all necessarily requires a -20 signed by a judge to be considered  lawful, unless otherwise waived by a standard waiver of civil in the original case.</p>
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		By: Tim in WI		</title>
		<link>https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43803</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim in WI]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2024 02:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43791&quot;&gt;Former Offender&lt;/a&gt;.

I find it interesting how calling it &quot; A registry of sex offenders&quot; clouds the reality that it&#039;s government database. And a database to which registrants are compelled by law to maintain the machine property by law.
Most are involuntary servants to the property.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43791">Former Offender</a>.</p>
<p>I find it interesting how calling it &#8221; A registry of sex offenders&#8221; clouds the reality that it&#8217;s government database. And a database to which registrants are compelled by law to maintain the machine property by law.<br />
Most are involuntary servants to the property.</p>
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		By: CJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2024 02:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43795&quot;&gt;CJ&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes Ms Sandy....the Term SO conjures all sorts of things in peoples minds.....

So for example...a person who is convicted of Drunk Driving etc....Do we refer to them as a &#039;Freakin Drunk&#039;.....probably not

When the words SO are used in various ways it creates a Stigma for which that person cannot retaliate against ...these words are everlasting stains on the person forced to register

my case is headed to the 3rd Federal Circuit.    we shall see how it pans out.   a certain SCOTUS judge heads up the 3rd Fed Circuit.....he was a good friend of former Justice Ruth G

A Slightly leftist view may bring a small change.    but we always hope for the best and prepare for the worst....Semper Fi]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43795">CJ</a>.</p>
<p>Yes Ms Sandy&#8230;.the Term SO conjures all sorts of things in peoples minds&#8230;..</p>
<p>So for example&#8230;a person who is convicted of Drunk Driving etc&#8230;.Do we refer to them as a &#8216;Freakin Drunk&#8217;&#8230;..probably not</p>
<p>When the words SO are used in various ways it creates a Stigma for which that person cannot retaliate against &#8230;these words are everlasting stains on the person forced to register</p>
<p>my case is headed to the 3rd Federal Circuit.    we shall see how it pans out.   a certain SCOTUS judge heads up the 3rd Fed Circuit&#8230;..he was a good friend of former Justice Ruth G</p>
<p>A Slightly leftist view may bring a small change.    but we always hope for the best and prepare for the worst&#8230;.Semper Fi</p>
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		By: Sandy Rozek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandy Rozek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2024 15:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43795&quot;&gt;CJ&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, CJ. I appreciate your input.
NARSOL does not call persons on the registry &quot;sex offenders&quot;; we actively protest the use of this term for the reason you give and others. I have written against it. We changed our name from RSOL to NARSOL to avoid using it. Yes, the media still does, extensively. That is unlikely to change as it generates clicks. The term &quot;person forced to register&quot; originated with the Registry Matters podcast and has not gained wide acceptance outside of that community. There are a great many people, readers, who would have no idea what &quot;registering&quot; was. They know what the sex offense registry is. Note, I say sex OFFENSE, not offender. I hope we are on the same page.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43795">CJ</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, CJ. I appreciate your input.<br />
NARSOL does not call persons on the registry &#8220;sex offenders&#8221;; we actively protest the use of this term for the reason you give and others. I have written against it. We changed our name from RSOL to NARSOL to avoid using it. Yes, the media still does, extensively. That is unlikely to change as it generates clicks. The term &#8220;person forced to register&#8221; originated with the Registry Matters podcast and has not gained wide acceptance outside of that community. There are a great many people, readers, who would have no idea what &#8220;registering&#8221; was. They know what the sex offense registry is. Note, I say sex OFFENSE, not offender. I hope we are on the same page.</p>
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		By: George Simmonds		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Simmonds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2024 15:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I used to live in Syracuse, NY and there is this agency that helps people and they got some heat for hiring this Level 2 sex offender as a counselor.  But the funny thing was there were no crimes committed by him.   There were several newspaper articles where people bitched about this, but I did not see one positive article saying something like this he committed no crimes while on the job so perhaps we should evaluate how we treat sex offenders, perhaps this guy wanted to atone for his past and wants to help people and that is commendable, like a former addict becoming a drug counselor.  But everything was negative.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to live in Syracuse, NY and there is this agency that helps people and they got some heat for hiring this Level 2 sex offender as a counselor.  But the funny thing was there were no crimes committed by him.   There were several newspaper articles where people bitched about this, but I did not see one positive article saying something like this he committed no crimes while on the job so perhaps we should evaluate how we treat sex offenders, perhaps this guy wanted to atone for his past and wants to help people and that is commendable, like a former addict becoming a drug counselor.  But everything was negative.</p>
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		By: William Hart		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Hart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2024 14:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43795&quot;&gt;CJ&lt;/a&gt;.

Excellent suggestion. I always refer to myself as a &quot;registered citizen&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2024/05/how-do-persons-on-sex-offender-registries-get-in-trouble/#comment-43795">CJ</a>.</p>
<p>Excellent suggestion. I always refer to myself as a &#8220;registered citizen&#8221;.</p>
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