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		By: Joe123		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2017/01/narsol-in-the-news-nc-lawsuit/#comment-31697&quot;&gt;Jason&lt;/a&gt;.

Are you aware of the website that is tracking everyone who is denied entry into a country? They are creating records of each situation to use against the state in a lawsuit. Please research this on Google, there is a site that&#039;s in the network on Register Citizen sites that is keeping track of this. I believe if you search for IML travel matrix, you will find the site. Please let them know what happened!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2017/01/narsol-in-the-news-nc-lawsuit/#comment-31697">Jason</a>.</p>
<p>Are you aware of the website that is tracking everyone who is denied entry into a country? They are creating records of each situation to use against the state in a lawsuit. Please research this on Google, there is a site that&#8217;s in the network on Register Citizen sites that is keeping track of this. I believe if you search for IML travel matrix, you will find the site. Please let them know what happened!</p>
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		By: Jeremy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2017 20:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2017/01/narsol-in-the-news-nc-lawsuit/#comment-31703&quot;&gt;Ruby&lt;/a&gt;.

I read one of the executive orders that Trump signed today after Sessions was sworn in.  In it is this clause: (3)(iii)  identify deficiencies in existing laws that have made them less effective in reducing crime and propose new legislation that could be enacted to improve public safety and reduce crime

Without getting political, it seems that Trump is very meticulous when it comes to getting expert advice and opinion before doing something, so we might have someone on our side here that reviews facts and empirical evidence.  I have already written the AG&#039;s office about researching the effect of the sex offender registry and I encourage everyone else to do the same.]]></description>
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<p>I read one of the executive orders that Trump signed today after Sessions was sworn in.  In it is this clause: (3)(iii)  identify deficiencies in existing laws that have made them less effective in reducing crime and propose new legislation that could be enacted to improve public safety and reduce crime</p>
<p>Without getting political, it seems that Trump is very meticulous when it comes to getting expert advice and opinion before doing something, so we might have someone on our side here that reviews facts and empirical evidence.  I have already written the AG&#8217;s office about researching the effect of the sex offender registry and I encourage everyone else to do the same.</p>
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		By: david		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 16:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2017/01/narsol-in-the-news-nc-lawsuit/#comment-31713&quot;&gt;James Townsend&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey James, my probation started pretty rough- it started with a bunch of restrictions that weren&#039;t ordered by the judge. Like you say, often it isn&#039;t up to individual agents- they are following the rules they are given.

In my case, i tried to move to another area in my state but got denied by that other probation department  for all kinds of dumb reasons- like there was a crosswalk/daycare/school/church/park, ect ect. 

I wasn&#039;t able to move and needed to find somewhere to live. Probation Ok&#039;d the first residence i offered up. So now i live across the street from a park, next to a crosswalk. There&#039;s even daycare&#039;s in my neighborhood and a school a few blocks away. So it seems that different probation departments have different styles. 

I was arrested in a sting. While taking responsibility for what i DID do i&#039;ve maintained all along that it&#039;s wrong to punish me for what i MIGHT have done. In my opinion the whole situation was taken out of context. Responding to an ad posted on craigslist- with it&#039;s implicit sexuality- is not the same as actively trying to molest children. 

I needed to make some changes in my life. And i have. Now could we please hit the &quot;reset button&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2017/01/narsol-in-the-news-nc-lawsuit/#comment-31713">James Townsend</a>.</p>
<p>Hey James, my probation started pretty rough- it started with a bunch of restrictions that weren&#8217;t ordered by the judge. Like you say, often it isn&#8217;t up to individual agents- they are following the rules they are given.</p>
<p>In my case, i tried to move to another area in my state but got denied by that other probation department  for all kinds of dumb reasons- like there was a crosswalk/daycare/school/church/park, ect ect. </p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t able to move and needed to find somewhere to live. Probation Ok&#8217;d the first residence i offered up. So now i live across the street from a park, next to a crosswalk. There&#8217;s even daycare&#8217;s in my neighborhood and a school a few blocks away. So it seems that different probation departments have different styles. </p>
<p>I was arrested in a sting. While taking responsibility for what i DID do i&#8217;ve maintained all along that it&#8217;s wrong to punish me for what i MIGHT have done. In my opinion the whole situation was taken out of context. Responding to an ad posted on craigslist- with it&#8217;s implicit sexuality- is not the same as actively trying to molest children. </p>
<p>I needed to make some changes in my life. And i have. Now could we please hit the &#8220;reset button&#8221;?</p>
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		By: H n H		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 09:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2017/01/narsol-in-the-news-nc-lawsuit/#comment-31709&quot;&gt;Rajendra&lt;/a&gt;.

Beings that escape from this country is the only hope of ever living life to its fullest again (away from the &quot;land of the free&quot;), I wonder if seeking asylum in another country isn&#039;t out of the question? Seriously, there are countries that would laugh at some of the charges a lot of us are on the registry for. Those same countries may offer asylum to the tyranny of the USA. One of the first comments a relative made about my arrest to me was &quot;When you get this all behind you, you just need to leave the country&quot;. Seems like pretty sound advice. Of course, to the lawmakers, there&#039;s nothing wrong. They&#039;re just &quot;protecting the children&quot;. Well, there wasn&#039;t anything wrong in Nazi Germany either and we all know how their little hiccup in the 30&#039;s and 40&#039;s turned out. Today, just the term Nazi is scorned upon for what their government did to their people. Yet the people were behind the government for the safety net they promised their citizens. I will vow to everyone here, give it 50 years or less, and this country will be right there. Hopefully, by then I won&#039;t be around to see it. 

Before my case came to light, I found myself in an isle at Lowes where a young girl, probably 3 was sitting in a shopping cart on the front edge of the basket. Her mother was turned around not paying attention, and the back of the cart near the handle began tipping up form her weight. Instinctively, making a split second decision, I put my hand on her back and said &quot;hey look out there!&quot; as I grabbed the front the cart she was sitting on to keep it from tipping over. Her mother turned to me and nearly came unglued demanding I get my hands off her daughter, and get away from her. I stood there stunned at the mothers reaction. What was I supposed to do? Get the mothers attention 15 ft away? By that time the young girl would have been on the floor with the cart on top of her with a serious injury. So, today? If I were to see that, as a registrant, the absolute very last thing I&#039;d want to do is put my hand on the child to keep her from tipping the cart over and cracking her head open. Due to the registry and the perverted court system, all manner of good intentions are OUT for me. That mother, if so inclined, could just instantly snap and call the police. Then once them clowns are involved and the DA gets a hold of the situation and discovers that a registered sex offender was touching a child while her mothers back was turned. Well, we all know how that would go down. They would twist that into a million different scenarios, finding the best narrative for them, that I was trying to kidnap the girl or something sick to feed their lust for power. There is no end to their depravity. I&#039;m so sickened... just angered at the reality of how easily that could happen, I can&#039;t put it into words. I shudder to think of walking away and hearing a crash and a young girl screaming in pain. But hey, the registry and the police have more power over our lives than GOD on this earth. That much I know for certain.

The registry, sex hysteria, and over exaggeration of sex laws has GOT to change. Where do we want these laws to take us in another 10 years? 20?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2017/01/narsol-in-the-news-nc-lawsuit/#comment-31709">Rajendra</a>.</p>
<p>Beings that escape from this country is the only hope of ever living life to its fullest again (away from the &#8220;land of the free&#8221;), I wonder if seeking asylum in another country isn&#8217;t out of the question? Seriously, there are countries that would laugh at some of the charges a lot of us are on the registry for. Those same countries may offer asylum to the tyranny of the USA. One of the first comments a relative made about my arrest to me was &#8220;When you get this all behind you, you just need to leave the country&#8221;. Seems like pretty sound advice. Of course, to the lawmakers, there&#8217;s nothing wrong. They&#8217;re just &#8220;protecting the children&#8221;. Well, there wasn&#8217;t anything wrong in Nazi Germany either and we all know how their little hiccup in the 30&#8217;s and 40&#8217;s turned out. Today, just the term Nazi is scorned upon for what their government did to their people. Yet the people were behind the government for the safety net they promised their citizens. I will vow to everyone here, give it 50 years or less, and this country will be right there. Hopefully, by then I won&#8217;t be around to see it. </p>
<p>Before my case came to light, I found myself in an isle at Lowes where a young girl, probably 3 was sitting in a shopping cart on the front edge of the basket. Her mother was turned around not paying attention, and the back of the cart near the handle began tipping up form her weight. Instinctively, making a split second decision, I put my hand on her back and said &#8220;hey look out there!&#8221; as I grabbed the front the cart she was sitting on to keep it from tipping over. Her mother turned to me and nearly came unglued demanding I get my hands off her daughter, and get away from her. I stood there stunned at the mothers reaction. What was I supposed to do? Get the mothers attention 15 ft away? By that time the young girl would have been on the floor with the cart on top of her with a serious injury. So, today? If I were to see that, as a registrant, the absolute very last thing I&#8217;d want to do is put my hand on the child to keep her from tipping the cart over and cracking her head open. Due to the registry and the perverted court system, all manner of good intentions are OUT for me. That mother, if so inclined, could just instantly snap and call the police. Then once them clowns are involved and the DA gets a hold of the situation and discovers that a registered sex offender was touching a child while her mothers back was turned. Well, we all know how that would go down. They would twist that into a million different scenarios, finding the best narrative for them, that I was trying to kidnap the girl or something sick to feed their lust for power. There is no end to their depravity. I&#8217;m so sickened&#8230; just angered at the reality of how easily that could happen, I can&#8217;t put it into words. I shudder to think of walking away and hearing a crash and a young girl screaming in pain. But hey, the registry and the police have more power over our lives than GOD on this earth. That much I know for certain.</p>
<p>The registry, sex hysteria, and over exaggeration of sex laws has GOT to change. Where do we want these laws to take us in another 10 years? 20?</p>
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		By: rwvnral		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 06:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2017/01/narsol-in-the-news-nc-lawsuit/#comment-31714&quot;&gt;wakeup&lt;/a&gt;.

I wouldn&#039;t be so certain of that. West Virginia is in the Fourth Circuit. So whatever the Fourth Circuit holds in the NC case will become the law in West Virginia. The Fourth Circuit is made up of five states: South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, and Maryland. Just stay tuned.]]></description>
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<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be so certain of that. West Virginia is in the Fourth Circuit. So whatever the Fourth Circuit holds in the NC case will become the law in West Virginia. The Fourth Circuit is made up of five states: South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, and Maryland. Just stay tuned.</p>
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		By: wakeup		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 06:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2017/01/narsol-in-the-news-nc-lawsuit/#comment-31691&quot;&gt;nope&lt;/a&gt;.

There is no chance of ever getting off the list in wv..]]></description>
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<p>There is no chance of ever getting off the list in wv..</p>
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		By: James Townsend		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2017 19:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David,  PO officers are only doing their job and they have a boss and they do what the judge says and the rules that sex offenders have to go by. They are more of a go between if you must say. As for a polygraph testing and a pre-questions sure I told the truth. I would rather tell the truth than get hooked up to some machine.

While I went back to my PO and tried to reconcile all this out with him he is giving me an opportunity to explain the whole thing. The polygraph test wouldn&#039;t exist if the original ordeal didn&#039;t happen and I&#039;m sure most know that these internet sting ordeals are more of con type game or manipulative move to enforce some ordeal that was made up in the first place thru a computer. Sort of a control operation with a sin slant of a sex nature.

In the long run it is basically a devils trick to prevent what they gave you with this opportunity. I don&#039;t know to many servants of God that give opportunities to do this type of deceit. Do any of you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,  PO officers are only doing their job and they have a boss and they do what the judge says and the rules that sex offenders have to go by. They are more of a go between if you must say. As for a polygraph testing and a pre-questions sure I told the truth. I would rather tell the truth than get hooked up to some machine.</p>
<p>While I went back to my PO and tried to reconcile all this out with him he is giving me an opportunity to explain the whole thing. The polygraph test wouldn&#8217;t exist if the original ordeal didn&#8217;t happen and I&#8217;m sure most know that these internet sting ordeals are more of con type game or manipulative move to enforce some ordeal that was made up in the first place thru a computer. Sort of a control operation with a sin slant of a sex nature.</p>
<p>In the long run it is basically a devils trick to prevent what they gave you with this opportunity. I don&#8217;t know to many servants of God that give opportunities to do this type of deceit. Do any of you.</p>
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		By: david		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 16:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2017/01/narsol-in-the-news-nc-lawsuit/#comment-31707&quot;&gt;H n N&lt;/a&gt;.

Don&#039;t make this politically divisive by blaming liberals. Conservatives are just as bad. Being SO&#039;s we are looked down upon by ALL people and parties. So knock it off please.

I&#039;d also like to make the point that when we comment/engage others regarding the fight for sex laws reformation it might be best to avoid making it a political argument.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2017/01/narsol-in-the-news-nc-lawsuit/#comment-31707">H n N</a>.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t make this politically divisive by blaming liberals. Conservatives are just as bad. Being SO&#8217;s we are looked down upon by ALL people and parties. So knock it off please.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to make the point that when we comment/engage others regarding the fight for sex laws reformation it might be best to avoid making it a political argument.</p>
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		By: rwvnral		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 00:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2017/01/narsol-in-the-news-nc-lawsuit/#comment-31710&quot;&gt;Empirical evidence rules the day&lt;/a&gt;.

Since the publication of &lt;a href=&quot;http://nationalrsol.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/ConCom-2015.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener ugc&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt; by Prof. Ellman in a 2015 edition of &lt;em&gt;Constitutional Commentary&lt;/em&gt;, the legal community representing constitutional claims on behalf of registered citizens have been gunning for a showdown with &lt;em&gt;McKune v. Lile&lt;/em&gt;.  &lt;em&gt;McKune&lt;/em&gt; is the 2002 Supreme Court case which contained the &quot;frightening and high&quot; language used by Justice Kennedy in describing recidivism rates among sex offenders. Justice Kennedy&#039;s reliance upon an article published in a 1986 edition of &lt;em&gt;Psychology Today&lt;/em&gt; was the culprit of what really became the touchstone for every prosecutor&#039;s theory regarding repeat offenses. The &lt;em&gt;McKune&lt;/em&gt; case has polluted the waters ever since and is definitely under scope. I would not be surprised to hear a healthy discussion about its misgivings at oral argument for Packingham.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.narsol.org/2017/01/narsol-in-the-news-nc-lawsuit/#comment-31710">Empirical evidence rules the day</a>.</p>
<p>Since the publication of <a href="http://nationalrsol.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/ConCom-2015.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener ugc">this article</a> by Prof. Ellman in a 2015 edition of <em>Constitutional Commentary</em>, the legal community representing constitutional claims on behalf of registered citizens have been gunning for a showdown with <em>McKune v. Lile</em>.  <em>McKune</em> is the 2002 Supreme Court case which contained the &#8220;frightening and high&#8221; language used by Justice Kennedy in describing recidivism rates among sex offenders. Justice Kennedy&#8217;s reliance upon an article published in a 1986 edition of <em>Psychology Today</em> was the culprit of what really became the touchstone for every prosecutor&#8217;s theory regarding repeat offenses. The <em>McKune</em> case has polluted the waters ever since and is definitely under scope. I would not be surprised to hear a healthy discussion about its misgivings at oral argument for Packingham.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Empirical evidence rules the day]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 00:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.narsol.org/2017/01/narsol-in-the-news-nc-lawsuit/#comment-31698&quot;&gt;rwvnral&lt;/a&gt;.

Robin - will the frightening and high stats SCOTUS used previously be taken to task here in Packingham to possibly bring it to light in front of the very Justice who was mislead?]]></description>
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<p>Robin &#8211; will the frightening and high stats SCOTUS used previously be taken to task here in Packingham to possibly bring it to light in front of the very Justice who was mislead?</p>
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